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Christ, Ronaldo when he took his t-shirt off - that guy is proper ripped! You'd expect him to be lean/toned with all the running he does, but his body is proper muscular with it.

Anyway, good result today - great link-up play between Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez and (even) Berba).
 
"In goes Massing... Oh! and he is not going to get past that challenge"

:D

From another link, great to see the scores - one imagines much of the rest of the world went similarly nuts, except in Argentina of course.

Actually having watched that link again, what an outrageous foul by Lorenzo, for which he isnt even booked.

Everyone in Italy outside of Naples was supporting Not Argentina in that World Cup, Dirty Diego wasn't a popular chap over there...
 
Everyone in Italy outside of Naples was supporting Not Argentina in that World Cup, Dirty Diego wasn't a popular chap over there...

Well yes, but then everyone hated them, they were the anti-football and thats even without the extra spice that the war, and 1986, gave to the general view of that team in the UK. FFS they managed to get to the point that Germany were the team that the non-Argentine world was supporting in the final, and of course there was then the great hilarity that was Maradona crying when he got booked, and their total loss of control during the match. Its fitting that they havent got near it since, really.

Actually its a bit of a shame international football has lost its truly evil teams, as rubbish as the finals were they have stuck with me more than any world cup since.
 
yeah, the greatest achievement of that Argentina side was in making the world support Germany in the final, a side not entirely against the concept of being filthy cheats themselves :D
 
I'll ask you again, how many matches have you seen Pele in?

Live, none. Full games on TV, 3 that I recall. Highlights, loads.

Pele was a better player than Rooney. Not by much, and Rooney may well be yet to reach his peak. Pele had better touch and more awareness of what was around him than just about anyone ever. What a lot of people seem to forget is that, like Cristiano Ronaldo, Pele was also an absolutely top class header of the ball. He had the lot. From the physical presence of Drogba, to the quick feet of Lionel Messi.

There have been players since Pele who were pretty much his equal, but nobody from Adriano to Zidane has matched his longevity. It's not just that Pele was the greatest player of his era. It's that he stretched it out over three generations of players. Rooney has a way to go before he can be talked about as the equal of George Best, Bobby Charlton, Johan Cruyff, Franco Baresi, or Pele. I'm not saying he can't do it, but just that he isn't there yet.
 
And where do we stand on Ronaldo? He's gotta be staking a claim as a candidate for 'best ever' as infinitely unlikable as he is.
 
yes magical globe trotting journalists sent from week to week all around the world on proto ryan air flights witht he sole purpose of judging the best player in the world.

I think that however inadequate their circumstances compared to today's, they would still have seen the great players of that era - which is more than you did.

Re: Maradona, you would have thought that no English player had ever committed a foul in the act of scoring. There's an awful lot of humbug talked about him.

Back to Pieface - it's funny, living in Spain you get used to Marca telling you how Real Madrid are about to sign everybody on the planet - one week it's Cristino Ronaldo, the next Gerrard, the one after that Barack Obama. It's never Rooney though. I don't believe that he's in the very highest circles he's rated quite as highly as the handful of genuine world superstars and I think the reason for that is probably temperament. But whatever the reasons, I'll wait till he's rated with Pelé by anybody other than a Manchester United fan before I think of taking that judgement even slightly seriously.
 
Back to Pieface - it's funny, living in Spain you get used to Marca telling you how Real Madrid are about to sign everybody on the planet - one week it's Cristino Ronaldo, the next Gerrard, the one after that Barack Obama. It's never Rooney though. I don't believe that he's in the very highest circles he's rated quite as highly as the handful of genuine world superstars and I think the reason for that is probably temperament. But whatever the reasons, I'll wait till he's rated with Pelé by anybody other than a Manchester United fan before I think of taking that judgement even slightly seriously.

Could it be that his agent has never touted him about?

I'm far from convinced Rooney is even the best English player. Not that I'm impartial, I'm sure most people know who a West Ham fan would put top of that list.
 
And where do we stand on Ronaldo? He's gotta be staking a claim as a candidate for 'best ever' as infinitely unlikable as he is.

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Could it be that his agent has never touted him about?

I'm far from convinced Rooney is even the best English player. Not that I'm impartial, I'm sure most people know who a West Ham fan would put top of that list.

julian dicks?
 
cf Ronaldo's antics when at Man U.

(Everton fan?)

Since I was 7

In those days, primary school kids in Bristol supported either Everton or Liverpool and either Rovers or c*ty. Obv I opted for the side of truth and justice in each case
 
Since I was 7

In those days, primary school kids in Bristol supported either Everton or Liverpool and either Rovers or c*ty. Obv I opted for the side of truth and justice in each case

either that, or it was the call of the Lescotts echoing down through the ages.
 
Third time's always the charm :D

There's a reason I don't like Argentina and it's not 1986. That 1990 team were a horrible, horrible bunch of nasty bastards and Maradona was their ringleader

Yeah - but I've warmed to them in recent years. In truth for the most part they're a collection of very talented individuals who play some very nice stuff but flake out when the pressures on.
 
either that, or it was the call of the Lescotts echoing down through the ages.

Could be :D Aaron played centre half yesterday cos of an emergency but I don't think he's quite in his brother's league in that position

Yeah - but I've warmed to them in recent years. In truth for the most part they're a collection of very talented individuals who play some very nice stuff but flake out when the pressures on.

They are paying for the sins of the fathers
 
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