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Tottenham Hale - shithole

I've just moved to Tottenham Hale / Seven Sisters and I've got to say I'm loving it. I've never felt so safe in years walking round the streets and my car hasn't been vandalised. I don't have bnp scum knocking on my door asking for my vote. Basically it feels like heaven when compared to living in Dagenham.
 
Behold! The majesty of Tottenham Hale!

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This was taken on my route from the tube, a walk that involved trudging over a large concrete bus station concourse (busily transporting people to the Ikea in Edmonton), passing a hideous block of corporate food chains and then walking along a busy one-way road.

Just before this scene, the ever decreasing pavement was eventually pushed completely off the road, making me walk through a run down council estate before I rejoined the road at this charming spot.

Nice, huh?
 
editor said:
Behold! The majesty of Tottenham Hale!

tottenham-hale.jpg


This was taken on my route from the tube, a walk that involved trudging over a large concrete bus station concourse (busily transporting people to the Ikea in Edmonton), passing a hideous block of corporate food chains and then walking along a busy one-way road.

Just before this scene, the ever decreasing pavement was eventually pushed completely off the road, making me walk through a run down council estate before I rejoined the road at this charming spot.

Nice, huh?
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Still better than Dagenham though.
 
Editor: but you could say that about any shitty one way system in London. I've a shitty road like that to get to my place, too.
I love it in Tottenham, thought I'd never say that, lots of wildlife, saw a few rabbits this morning, saw a weasel last week, actually saw my first ever wild snakes in the UK this summer, one of which was swimming accross the river. You can hire canoes and kayaks here too. Rural Tottenham rocks!
 
pinkmonkey said:
Editor: but you could say that about any shitty one way system in London.
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But the whole mile long trip was like that. Ugly from start to finish. All cars, railings, roundabouts and concrete. Noisy. Unpleasant.

When the pavement ended and pushed me off into some council estate that was the final straw.

*note: I'm not referring to all of Tottenham here, just Tottenham Hale.
 
editor said:
But the whole mile long trip was like that. Ugly from start to finish. All cars, railings, roundabouts and concrete. Noisy. Unpleasant.
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Well if you walk along a main road & transport route that kinda tends often to be the case.

:confused:
 
KeyboardJockey said:
I've just moved to Tottenham Hale / Seven Sisters and I've got to say I'm loving it. I've never felt so safe in years walking round the streets and my car hasn't been vandalised. I don't have bnp scum knocking on my door asking for my vote. Basically it feels like heaven when compared to living in Dagenham.
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Anywhere would feel like heaven compared to Dagenham.
 
Hollis said:
Well if you walk along a main road & transport route that kinda tends often to be the case.
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No, it doesn't. I can't recall the last time that I walked along a pavement from the main station that actually got pushed off the road to make more room for cars.
 
editor said:
No, it doesn't. I can't recall the last time that I walked along a pavement from the main station that actually got pushed off the road to make more room for cars.
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Noise, concrete, cars.etc. this all generally applies to main roads and traffic routes.


You're only real beef seems to be that there wasn't a pavement. Fair enough, though I expect if you lived in the area you'd know to use one of the residential roads. These things happen when you don't really know an area.

Next time walk in the opposite direction and you'll see a different side to Tottenham Hale.
 
Hollis said:
Noise, concrete, cars.etc. this all generally applies to main roads and traffic routes.


You're only real beef seems to be that there wasn't a pavement. Fair enough, though I expect if you lived in the area you'd know to use one of the residential roads. These things happen when you don't really know an area.

Next time walk in the opposite direction and you'll see a different side to Tottenham Hale.
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Yup. I've never had problems getting round TH. If I was walking to say Mannions pub then I'd walk to it via Broad Lane. Just a case of knowing your way around.

And I still say that it is better than Dagenham. At least you can buy books in the area as far as I remember Dagenham doesn't even have a bookshop. Even the street drinkers are relatively polite in TH.
 
yea, it is a total dump isn't it? i've only ever been there twice, to go to the B&Qs near the tube, but on one occassion i saw someone getting mugged (i think...there was deffo something heavy going on) and on another i had some crackhead get really aggressive when i told him i didnt have any cigarettes (i didn't).

both incidents directly outside the tube station by the way.

horrible, horrible place.
 
Hollis said:
You're only real beef seems to be that there wasn't a pavement. Fair enough, though I expect if you lived in the area you'd know to use one of the residential roads.
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No, the 'beef' was that for the entire walk was I was flanked by a particularly ugly road surrounded by a sea of concrete, railings and roundabouts.

Moreover I was almost made to feel guilty for not driving, with the tiny pavement being wedged between a high fence and a road barrier before being kicked off the roadside altogether.

I then had to walk through a run down estate and through horrible little alleys before finding myself back on a tiny pavement next to the roaring traffic.

Ugly as fuck. No town should have to look that bad and no pedestrian should be treated in such a manner.
 
editor said:
No, the 'beef' was that for the entire walk was I was flanked by a particularly ugly road surrounded by a sea of concrete, railings and roundabouts.
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It's less than a kilometer of a walk with about 3 alternative routes to make the journey you made. You just went a bad way, there are roads like that all over London. Ever walk around the area by Wembley Ikea, I got lost there once and it's much, much worse. And there's a section of Edmonton that's full of furniture shops and I think a big Borders bookshop and I don't actually think it's possible to travel between some of the stores without a car.

editor said:
Moreover I was almost made to feel guilty for not driving,
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If you were driving that route you'd have been made feel a lot more guilty as you would have been going the wrong way on a one-way system.
 
This is basically the point. The editor didn't know the area, so he walked along the traffic throughfare.

As a cyclist your directed along the cycle path.. as a pedestrian you'd walk along the residential roads - away from the nasty traffic noise and fumes.. No big deal really.
 
I went and looked round a flat in northumberland park the other day and that was pretty horrible too, the area reminded me of Stoke on Trent :eek::(:(
 
Iguana said:
It's less than a kilometer of a walk with about 3 alternative routes to make the journey you made. You just went a bad way, there are roads like that all over London.
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Iguana said:
It's less than a kilometer of a walk with about 3 alternative routes to make the journey you made. You just went a bad way, there are roads like that all over London.
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I went the quickest way.

And whatever route I took that wouldn't stop the area around the station - including that utterly soulless set of corporate fast food restaurants - being a vile sea of concrete and roads.

No wonder they're proposing to redevelop it!

Admire my route here. Zoom in for more concrete!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1313024
 
editor said:
Admire my route here. Zoom in for more concrete!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1313024
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The American cultural imperialism of Google maps took me to a map centred somewhere in the midwest (Coffeyville, Kansas - actually) when I inadvertently hit the "Return to the last result" icon.

Which is probably a fair comment on what the car focused 1970s design if most of Tottenham Hale currently aspires to.
 
editor said:
I went the quickest way.
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Actually the quickest way would have been to get off at Seven Sisters.:p

And yes the retail park is horrible and souless, but there are similar retail parks all over the place. There's even a bunch of them in Ireland. Horrible places and I can't understand who designed them and who the hell gave them permission to be built.

That said I like being with a mile of a Lidl as they stock a few thing that the Aldi around the corner from me doesn't.;)
 
Missed this thread. Tottenham Hale has the Ferry boat Inn and some amazing big resevoirs with great birdlife...

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It's not allll bad.....:rolleyes:
 
I haven't been to Tottenham Hale station for a decade or two and can't remember what accessibility is like. If I'm coming from Stratford and going to Ponders End is six minutes enough to get to the right platform with a big kid in a mobility buggy (not safe on an escalator). Do they have lifts?
 
Don't know the station but I check things like this on the National Rail website for my journeys.

I can't see a lift on the station map, see here

Tottenham Hale Station | National Rail

Discover Tottenham Hale railway station. Getting to & from, buying & collecting train tickets, staffing, facilities, accessibility, & mobility access.
www.nationalrail.co.uk www.nationalrail.co.uk
 
Throbbing Angel said:
Don't know the station but I check things like this on the National Rail website for my journeys.

I can't see a lift on the station map, see here

Tottenham Hale Station | National Rail

Discover Tottenham Hale railway station. Getting to & from, buying & collecting train tickets, staffing, facilities, accessibility, & mobility access.
www.nationalrail.co.uk www.nationalrail.co.uk
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I've checked that. It doesn't tell me if six minutes is long enough or where the platforms are in relation to each other. Also, I remember it having lifts but it's been a while and they may not be lifts that help me change between those two trains.
 
maomao said:
I've checked that. It doesn't tell me if six minutes is long enough or where the platforms are in relation to each other. Also, I remember it having lifts but it's been a while and they may not be lifts that help me change between those two trains.
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Might be worth phoning them
 
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