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Totally Unemployable

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by stuff_it, Mar 30, 2016.

  1. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Just my initial
     
  2. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    oh cock off
     
  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    zzzzz
     
  4. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    If you, again for for example, applied for the post of librarian at the British International School of Goa, you'd probably be required to include a photo with your CV.
     
  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    not to mention evidence of being a librarian
     
  6. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    why?

    i personally wouldn't apply for any job that asked me to provide a photo, unless i was going for acting, modelling (ha!), lookalike or extras work
     
  7. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Nah. That's not how it works.
     
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  8. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    if you apply for a post which requires you to have specific skills and/or experience it's generally accepted that you provide evidence of those skills/experience whether (in the hypothetical you posed) in the cv or in the covering letter. if you want the job, that is.
     
  9. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    you only provide evidence on request, ime.
     
  10. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    :facepalm: when you apply for a job, do you a) demonstrate you meet the person specification on the application form or cv/covering letter, or b) say 'i'll give you evidence when you request it'?
     
  11. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    you state your qualifications on your cv and provide evidence of them if requested. i've only been asked to once.
     
  12. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    It is the norm in many other countries. Like it or not.
     
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  13. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    :(
    thankfully it isn't in this. you are generally not advised to put your photo on your CV.
    I was told it was a big no-no when i was on the dole
     
  14. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Well, yeah.

    I was commenting on the somewhat dubious at times recruitment processes in certain establishments.
     
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  15. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    nepotism, simony and so on
     
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  16. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    You should be asked every time. That's shoddy practice.
     
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  17. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    i've been asked to every time i've had an interview in the last 10 years. just produce the last couple of degree certs, rather than beinging them all out tho.
     
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  18. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*


    It is here.

    ...but it isn't in other places.

    To the point that you can find advice on the internet about CV creation that includes photos. Important for British students/job seekers to be aware of this before blindly following online instructions.
     
  19. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    really? the only time i was asked was when i was applying for PGCE/Schools Direct. I couldn't prove it, so I didn't proceed any further. You have to pay silly money to exam boards to get GCSE or A Level certs. And I couldn't get a cert from my uni, just a letter.
     
  20. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    ...and then this proof should be kept in the school's Single Central Record. If that isn't shipshape it's an automatic inspection fail.
     
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  21. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    The only -- literally only -- thing I will say in favour of photos is that when you are interviewing a lot of people, it is easy to forget who was who and it is handy to have the reminder of the face that went along with the CV.

    That's not a good enough reason to include them, but it is a reason.
     
  22. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    surprised letter not enough, you may want to get a transcript from the university tho.
     
  23. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    ime there's generally 6-8 people interviewed for a post
     
  24. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    A letter was enough
     
  25. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    i'm sorry, i thought you said you had trouble proving your qualifications so didn't take things further
     
  26. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Really it's only "professional qualifications" that matter though. GCSEs and A levels are largely going to be irrelevant. But if they're asking for qualified teachers or qualified librarian or graduates or whatever then they need to have evidence that their recruits meet this requirement.

    I've always, always been asked to bring originals of degree, PGCE etc. with me to interview. They've almost always been photocopied there and then, regardless of whether I've been offered the job or not.

    Schools cannot afford to be sloppy with their SCR.
     
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  27. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    they still wanted certs for the other qualifications.
    i didn't go on with it for many other reasons too, mind. glad i didn't
     
  28. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    I just have a BA - no school has asked me to prove it
     
  29. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model The word of Sin is Restriction

    schools chuck their records out with abandon.
     
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  30. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Wouldn't surprise me.

    But they risk failing Ofsted over their SCR and getting done for breaching data protection.

    They also need to have a data retention schedule.

    Managers can be held personally liable for this stuff if they're negligent. #justsayin' ;)
     

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