"Torture porn" - is that it?

[Cid]

I watched Saw last night and have to say 'meh'. I mean I was stoned and cynical, which is never a good state to watch a film for the first time, but I just found a lot of it very contrived.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

I thought Saw was risible. A decent premise with an appalling script, apalling acting, appalling everything

What were you expecting? It's "torture porn". The clue is in the genre name... 'twas never gonna be oscar material.

 

[isitme]

a bit of saliva dribble came out when i first saw hostel. and that is true. it went on my boyfriend's jumper.

that's fucked up yo!

 

[electrogirl]

Selected splatter film directors



Herschell Gordon Lewis:

• Blood Feast (1963)
• Two Thousand Maniacs! (1964)
• Color Me Blood Red (1965)
• The Gruesome Twosome (1967)
• The Wizard of Gore (1970)
• The Gore Gore Girls (1972)
• Blood Feast 2: All U Can Eat (2002)

George Romero:

• Night of the Living Dead (1968)
• Dawn of the Dead (1978)
• Day of the Dead (1985)
• Land of the Dead (2005)
• Diary of the Dead (2007)

Stuart Gordon:

• Re-Animator (1985)
• From Beyond (1986)
• Castle Freak (1995)
• Dagon (2001)

Lucio Fulci:

• Zombi 2 (1979)
• City of the Living Dead (1980)
• The Beyond (1981)
• The House by the Cemetery (1981)
• The New York Ripper (1982)
• A Cat in the Brain (Nightmare Concert, 1990)

Sam Raimi:

• The Evil Dead (1982)
• Evil Dead II (1987)

Frank Henenlotter:

• Basket Case (1982)
• Brain Damage (1987)

Peter Jackson:

• Bad Taste (1987)
• Braindead/Dead Alive (1992)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splatter_movie

sweet. thanks! i've seen the evil dead films recently but i found them more like comedies. i fucking loved them but they'e not scary really.

 

[electrogirl]

that's fucked up yo!

now ex-boyfriend

 

[isitme]

now ex-boyfriend

cos of the drooling?

 

[electrogirl]

cos of the drooling?

probably a factor yeah

 

[isitme]

some people might see it as a positive

 

[electrogirl]

some people might see it as a positive

seeing anyone? xx

 

[isitme]

seeing anyone? xx

i get so lonely
up here on my own....

 

[XR75]

What were you expecting? It's "torture porn". The clue is in the genre name... 'twas never gonna be oscar material.

On the other hand it's not going to autmaticly make the movie bad because some hack gave the "genre" a silly label.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

sweet. thanks! i've seen the evil dead films recently but i found them more like comedies. i fucking loved them but they'e not scary really.

I always thought they _were_ comedies (well, I've not seen the first one). I didn't realise that there was moral panic about it until way after seeing 2.

 

[El Jefe]

What were you expecting? It's "torture porn". The clue is in the genre name... 'twas never gonna be oscar material.

I don't think the term had even been used when Wolf Creek came out.

 

[electrogirl]

I always thought they _were_ comedies (well, I've not seen the first one). I didn't realise that there was moral panic about it until way after seeing 2.

The 3rd one is especially funny and less horror. 'Give some sugar baby'

I've not seen the first one but apparently it's sarker, tree rape?

 

[electrogirl]

BTW I never expected to like films like Hostel, or want to watch them over again, but I do.

Is watching films like Hostel/Saw/ Wolf Creek any different to watching a horrific Zombie film?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

When you guys talk about being "terrified" and "scared" by a film, do you really mean it? Like, genuinely scared?

I've never seen a film in my life that's scared me, it's just a film, it's not real, how on earth can it scare you

OK, things might look a bit icky, but any more than that? Nah.

 

[El Jefe]

Dunno about scared. the original of The Vanishing really freaked the fuck out of me, though.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Dunno about scared. the original of The Vanishing really freaked the fuck out of me, though.

I can think of two films that have freaked me out (Requiem For A Dream and Tetsuo) but I have a feeling that was more down to the fact I was tripping on LSD at the time, rather than the films themselves

 

[El Jefe]

yeh, well when you're tripping a bloody Care Bears movie could freak you out.

No, make that WOULD freak you out

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Braindead/Dead Alive[/URL][/I] (1992)
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Ha quality film "Some of my best friends are paedophiles"

I didn't know there was a second one, and to think he went on to make Lord of the Rings!

 

[Dillinger4]

I don't think I have ever really seen any of these torture porn films.

A few years ago, I saw a video of somebody being beheaded in Iraq. It was about 12 minutes long, it started off with him reading out a statement about the crimes of the west, a plea for his life, then some people came along and cut off his head with a saw.

 

[Grandma Death]

I think SAW is on BBC1 tonight. I'm going to try watching it but have no compunction about turning it off if it's shit. .

Oh trust me....it is shit. Very fucking shit. The acting is appalling.

 

[Hi-ASL]

I enjoyed it. Again.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

On the other hand it's not going to autmaticly make the movie bad because some hack gave the "genre" a silly label.

Oh no, I agree. You just have to appreciate these movies for what they are - silly, misanthropic 90 minute diversions from reality.

I don't think the name is completely silly. Like real porn, these things have next to no plot, the acting is mostly crap, and the whole thing builds up to a "climax" (one of death, the other of spunk...). It does sort of make sense....

 

[Cid]

When you guys talk about being "terrified" and "scared" by a film, do you really mean it? Like, genuinely scared?

I've never seen a film in my life that's scared me, it's just a film, it's not real, how on earth can it scare you

OK, things might look a bit icky, but any more than that? Nah.

Hmmm... A film can unsettle you though. Rosemary's baby, Don't look now etc are not scary (at all really), but their unhinged realism leaves you feeling you've learned something? I'm not sure... Kind of like you've absorbed a bit of the mentalness.

You need good actors though, and watching Saw last night just had me cracking up; 'h...h... honey, it's ok'.

 

[dtb]

a lot of the italian stuff released in the early 80s was much more repulsive and sadistic than anything like hostel or saw - check out umberto lenzi or ruggero deodatos films if you want to see something really depraved

 

[rutabowa]

a lot of the italian stuff released in the early 80s was much more repulsive and sadistic than anything like hostel or saw - check out umberto lenzi or ruggero deodatos films if you want to see something really depraved

you can't take them seriously though, they've got ridiculous electro funk sound tracks and the worst scripts and plots ever!

 

[dtb]

dunno, i think some of them a pretty good. admittedly most are very trashy, but i'd rather watch them than the new wave of horror films of late

 

[butchersapron]

a lot of the italian stuff released in the early 80s was much more repulsive and sadistic than anything like hostel or saw - check out umberto lenzi or ruggero deodatos films if you want to see something really depraved

I don't think they were.

 

[Orang Utan]

dunno, i think some of them a pretty good. admittedly most are very trashy, but i'd rather watch them than the new wave of horror films of late

Many of them are terrible, but a few are great - Suspiria and Tenebrae are excellent and Zombie Flesh Eaters (or Zombi 2) is rather good. The soundtracks are often better than the films is some cases though, such as City Of The Living Dead