Toronto van attack: Suspect quizzed after 10 pedestrians killed

[planetgeli]

Unban me right fucking now

Thread starter, Samthefootball

 

[Mab]

Apparently on his facebook he praised killer Eliot Rodger as the "supreme gentleman". Roger was the one who stabbed three in his apartment then emptied 400 rounds killing three and injuring ten more in Santa Barbara California. From his BMW he spewed his confessional on youtube, his hate for women, blaming them for his being a virgin at 22 ad naseum. Hi da was some big whig director. Nasty indulged kid.

 

[ddraig]

the reports were saying he was a loner and socially awkward
that's happened a few times with white shooters
ie

 

[CRI]

the reports were saying he was a loner and socially awkward
that's happened a few times with white shooters
ie

Funny that, and even there is evidence suggesting misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic and/or white supremacist motivation, it's still not "terrorism," and no one even asks how they were "radialised."

Maybe some tutting about mental health support, or men struggling to cope with their place in 21st century metrosexual society, but then crickets.

 

[Yossarian]

The reaction from the far-right seems to be to flat-out ignore the fact that Minassian is a 4chan poster from an Armenian family, not a Muslim extremist - Katie Hopkins appears to be in Toronto for some reason and she's denounced Justin Trudeau as a "terrorist shill."

 

[J Ed]

Something from that website...

On Okcupid, a dating site, it was shown that women view men who are not part of the top 7% as unattractive, while men rated women quite fairly. If you are an average normie male, women are not attracted to you. Your life will consist of working your ass off (becoming a wagecuck/wageslave), then betabuxing a female that has probably already hit the wall, only for her to divorce you a few years later and to take everything from you.
It would be also good for you to google the 80/20 rule.
Women are hardwired to only be attracted to CHAD (the top 10%), everyone else is only seen as a provider subconsciously

What strikes me here is how that this is hatred which is just so incredibly transactional. I don't understand all the vocabulary, not sure what betabuxing is, but it seems to reduce all human relationships to basically market forces. You would only do X, Y and Z so that you can get sex and that sex should be a product which is delivered without further complications, anything other than that is a way in which your rights as a customer to the product of sex are being violated.

 

[Poot]

Something from that website...



What strikes me here is how that this is hatred which is just so incredibly transactional. I don't understand all the vocabulary, not sure that betabuxing is, but it seems to reduce all human relationships to basically market forces. You would only do X, Y and Z so that you can get sex and that sex should be a product which is delivered without further complications, anything other than that is a way in which your rights as a customer to the product of sex are being violated.

Ah, the old romantics.

I also got onto that website (I think it has suddenly received a lot of traffic). It made me sad. Not even angry that they were so misogynistic. Just sad that society/their life/other has made them that way. It must be absolutely exhausting to be so angry all the time.

 

[CRI]

The reaction from the far-right seems to be to flat-out ignore the fact that Minassian is a 4chan poster from an Armenian family, not a Muslim extremist - Katie Hopkins appears to be in Toronto for some reason and she's denounced Justin Trudeau as a "terrorist shill."

Haven't seen this, but not surprised. I'm also noticing a narrowing of what constitutes "white" and "Christian" American on the far right. When I was growing up, Armenian Americans were definitely perceived as white, along the same lines as Italian or Greek Americans, and still Christians, even if not Protestant, which was of course superior. Edging closer to "only white and Christian if your ancestors were Northern European and Protestant," especially if you've got any hint of a tan.

 

[CRI]

Apparently on his facebook he praised killer Eliot Rodger as the "supreme gentleman". Roger was the one who stabbed three in his apartment then emptied 400 rounds killing three and injuring ten more in Santa Barbara California. From his BMW he spewed his confessional on youtube, his hate for women, blaming them for his being a virgin at 22 ad naseum. Hi da was some big whig director. Nasty indulged kid.

Stumbled across this Twitter thread on this crop of over entitled white boys who fancy themselves as "Incel." Christ, just kill it with fire.

Thread by @ArshyMann: "For the past little while, I've been working on a piece about Toronto's relationship to the alt-right, especially the "manosphere." Unfortun […]"

 

[19force8]

Stumbled across this Twitter thread on this crop of over entitled white boys who fancy themselves as "Incel." Christ, just kill it with fire.

Thread by @ArshyMann: "For the past little while, I've been working on a piece about Toronto's relationship to the alt-right, especially the "manosphere." Unfortun […]"

I'm slightly more disturbed by the ad for "Romance Tale" that cropped up when I looked at your link - "This is not a typical dating site... Girl will make the first move, etc"

It's almost like there's an algorithm deciding that anyone reading the article is in need of a dating website.

Or, even worse, it could just be targeting me

 

[CRI]

I'm slightly more disturbed by the ad for "Romance Tale" that cropped up when I looked at your link - "This is not a typical dating site... Girl will make the first move, etc"

It's almost like there's an algorithm deciding that anyone reading the article is in need of a dating website.

Or, even worse, it could just be targeting me

Use Firefox Containers (unless you need a dating website )

 

[ddraig]

Toronto suspect praised 'incel' killer

with video of him before arrest

and

The term "incel" refers to a now-banned group on the message site Reddit, used by Rodger, where young men discussed their lack of sexual activity and attractiveness to women - often blaming women for the problem.

 

[sealion]

Thread starter, Samthefootball

 

[Mrs Miggins]

ha. one way to spend your Tuesday evening. Inc els dot m e

Goodness me what people these guys are

And they wonder why they can't get a girlfriend.

 

[19force8]

Use Firefox Containers (unless you need a dating website )

I can barely use google, but I've got enough sense of self preservation to avoid having dating sites in my browser history.

Anyway, back to the topic, or not. Actually, not as I can't get my head round it at this time of night.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Are these people barely literate or is it that I just don't speak American?

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Spymaster please join up and start a thread....I wish to see chaos in their ranks

 

[sealion]

another loner and socially awkward white man
that explains that one away then
next!

A bit more than socially awkward according to this,, Toronto police quiz van attack suspect

Mr Minassian had previously attended a school for students with special needs in north Toronto, former classmates said.

He would be seen walking around Thornlea Secondary School with his head down and hands clasped tightly together making meowing noises, Shereen Chami told Reuters.

 

[Spymaster]

Spymaster please join up and start a thread....I wish to see chaos in their ranks

I’m not sure I could stomach it tbh, Miggs. I’m actually quite disturbed that they’re getting sexually aroused by a video of a young girl being beaten half senseless with a belt by her father. I’m going to look for someone to report it to.

 

[bimble]

Spymaster i didn't look at that thread but feel disturbed by what i did read on there yesterday, if its not a terrorist 'movement' it has a lot of the trappings of one. Found it sad and scary af.

 

[likesfish]

terrorism is pointlessly stupid but mass murder because you can't have sex. One theory Not sure how batshit it is that Islamic fundies are prepared to be suicide bombers because of sexual frustration if that's remotely true incels and their friends could become another murderous irritant in the 21st century. They can talk to each other over the net they already think they have nothing left to live for so bigging themselves up to go out in a blaze of glory.
Brilliant absolutely outstanding the ultimate 1st world problem I cant have sex with a beautiful lady so I'm going commit mass murder

 

[J Ed]

terrorism is pointlessly stupid but mass murder because you can't have sex. One theory Not sure how batshit it is that Islamic fundies are prepared to be suicide bombers because of sexual frustration if that's remotely true incels and their friends could become another murderous irritant in the 21st century. They can talk to each other over the net they already think they have nothing left to live for so bigging themselves up to go out in a blaze of glory.
Brilliant absolutely outstanding the ultimate 1st world problem I cant have sex with a beautiful lady so I'm going commit mass murder

Islamist forums seem to be full of questions about to what extent it is possible to marry/rape the local population during the course of your jihading. I would say that there is a lot of crossover.

 

[bimble]

For sure many of the voices on that forum of theirs were saying they feel suicidal and see no hope at all for the future, which combined with the rage and hate helps if you're going to do suicidal violence.

 

[Spymaster]

Spymaster i didn't look at that thread but feel disturbed by what i did read on there yesterday, if its not a terrorist 'movement' it has a lot of the trappings of one. Found it sad and scary af.

I’ve spent a fair bit of time trolling racist and WP sites and you have to read them for a while to understand who’s who, what they’re about, etc. I couldn’t do it with that site yesterday. It’s fucking vile. Worse than Stormfront, IMO.

 

[bimble]

WP sites

what does this mean? white power?

 

[Spymaster]

Yes

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I’ve spent a fair bit of time trolling racist and WP sites and you have to read them for a while to understand who’s who, what they’re about, etc. I couldn’t do it with that site yesterday. It’s fucking vile. Worse than Stormfront, IMO.

Thought I’d take a look. Proper batshit stuff!

Am I a normie making everything slow? Sad & dangerous in equal measures.

 

[19force8]

terrorism is pointlessly stupid but mass murder because you can't have sex. One theory Not sure how batshit it is that Islamic fundies are prepared to be suicide bombers because of sexual frustration if that's remotely true incels and their friends could become another murderous irritant in the 21st century. They can talk to each other over the net they already think they have nothing left to live for so bigging themselves up to go out in a blaze of glory.
Brilliant absolutely outstanding the ultimate 1st world problem I cant have sex with a beautiful lady so I'm going commit mass murder

If it was just about sex he could have used the money he spent on van hire to buy some time with a "beautiful lady." The internet's full of that sort of shit and it's a sight easier to find than 4chan.

There's a whole spectrum of problems tied up with toxic masculinity and this is definitely the sadder end of it. It strikes me there's a deep well of pain, social isolation and anger being exploited here for the amusement and profit of sociopaths. For instance, the idea that you can be taught chat up techniques which can get you sex without having to engage with someone as another human being, like cheat codes in a computer game. A lot of what these guys complain about online when they're not venting their anger is just plain loneliness. Nobody's offering them lessons in how to make real friends and get, rather than take, an actual life.

The Japanese have an interesting variant on this:

Pictures Reveal the Isolated Lives of Japan’s Social Recluses

 

[Yossarian]

Some details on the victims are coming out - killing a Jordanian tourist and an 80-year-old grandmother on her way to do some volunteer work was apparently part of Minassian's revenge on the "Chads and Staceys" of the world.

Here's what we know about the victims of the van attack in Toronto | CBC News

 

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