Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Not at all, then again they're an entertainment show rather than a documentary, you gets what you (indirectly through the wonders of the lisence fee) pay for.
Top Gear: Blimey
- Thread starter paolo
- Start date
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fuck the eco cars, the most important bit was the Caterham R500 finally getting the recognition it deserves 
Blow a Veyron away, for 35 grand....
Blow a Veyron away, for 35 grand....
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Oh yeah, if i ever have enough cash to blow on a fancy car then one of those is going to be near the top of the list. 
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Oh yeah, if i ever have enough cash to blow on a fancy car then one of those is going to be near the top of the list.
I've driven an R500 (the older version anyway, the new one is slightly faster) round Donington Park, it's impossible to describe what that level of performance is like, it just blows your mind
You can get the basic Caterham 7 for for around 15K if you build it yourself. Not quite the warp speed performance of the R500, but you'll still have more performance than most things on the road. There is no better handling car, simple as that
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Didn't see this but...
This isn't the first time they've put alternative fuel cars on Top Gear and they didn't slag them off either.
They test drove one that ran on water and were basically saying this is the car of the future. It had a bolt on, bolt off chasis too so you could have interchangable body types. Pick-up one day and saloon the next.
Unfortunately at that stage the car was like 3 million quid a go to produce and we need to wait for the tech to get cheaper.
This isn't the first time they've put alternative fuel cars on Top Gear and they didn't slag them off either.
They test drove one that ran on water and were basically saying this is the car of the future. It had a bolt on, bolt off chasis too so you could have interchangable body types. Pick-up one day and saloon the next.
Unfortunately at that stage the car was like 3 million quid a go to produce and we need to wait for the tech to get cheaper.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
My thoughts exactly, add in that the basic is only a 1.6 and weighs as much as a sparrow's fart and i'll even get pretty good miles / gallon to bootI've driven an R500 (the older version anyway, the new one is slightly faster) round Donington Park, it's impossible to describe what that level of performance is like, it just blows your mind
You can get the basic Caterham 7 for for around 15K if you build it yourself. Not quite the warp speed performance of the R500, but you'll still have more performance than most things on the road. There is no better handling car, simple as that
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
I hate you 
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
I don't know where you get 15-18 US gallons from. My Fiat Coupe was 55 litres, which is 14.5 US gallons. My Hyundai Coupe was 50 litres, which is 13.2 US gallons. And my Fiat Panda 4x4 is about 35 litres, which is 9.25 US gallons (12.1, 11.0 and 7.7 Imperial gallons respectively). Typical fuel efficiency in each for the actual journeys I do as actually measured by me was 24.0, 27.5 and 36.5mpg (Imperial gallons) respectively, which gives them ranges of 290 miles, 303 miles and 281 miles respectively (which concurs with my filling experience too).
So about 280-300 miles for a petrol engine doing a typical cycle, in other words, in the real world. By comparison, 200-250 miles wouldn't be bad at all.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Internet, probably a US site about US cars. My 306 is about 55ltrs and gives me a bit over 550 miles, 200-250 would be a big step down for me.
But you're missing part of the problem here, how much lower was your mpg than manufacturer's spec with your driving? If you only get 2/3 what they spec then you're looking at 180 miles.
But you're missing part of the problem here, how much lower was your mpg than manufacturer's spec with your driving? If you only get 2/3 what they spec then you're looking at 180 miles.
Pingu
Credo
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
You actually average 45.5mpg? That's good going -- I presume that you do a *lot* of motorway driving?
The manufacturer's spec for the Panda was about right, actually -- about 50mpg at peak efficiency and about 25-30mpg for crunching, crappy, stop-start driving. My journeys just involve a lot of twisty country roads meaning a lot of accelerating from 0 to 50mph and then back to 0 again, which is horrendously inefficient. So I average 36.5.
you hate him cos its true though
Heh. Quite like a drive of one mind, if not the idea of owning one. Nothing screams mid life crisis quite as loudly as a Caterham.
But at least you can bask in the warm glow of appreciation from Clarkson and motoring geek types. The only women who'll ever go near you are those with strangely immobile helmet hair though.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
That, oh and driving like an old woman helps too
Pingu
Credo
Jorum
Well-Known Member
Interesting development - Tesla say that neither of the roadsters they supplied broke down or ran out of power.
If it is true then the BBC basically lied and faked about having to push it back to the garage.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/18/top_gear_vs_tesla/
If it's true the BBC have made yet another editorial/misleading cock up.
In this case I would say potentially serious - surely Tesla could claim BBC have damaged their business by lying in a product review?
If it is true then the BBC basically lied and faked about having to push it back to the garage.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/18/top_gear_vs_tesla/
If it's true the BBC have made yet another editorial/misleading cock up.
In this case I would say potentially serious - surely Tesla could claim BBC have damaged their business by lying in a product review?
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
My guess is they won't sue however, which would make this a damage limitiation excercise.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
One little factoid, 55 miles on a full tank is comparable to other performance cars on the track, although the refilling time is a bit longer
elevendayempire
Registered Loofah
Jorum
Well-Known Member
BBC have now admited that the Tesla did not run out of juice http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/22/bbc_top_gear_tesla/, but justify their decision based "we were showing what would happen if it did run out". Which is bizzare bullshit. Next week on top gear - we show you what happens if an Audi A4 runs out of petrol, and what happend "if" a Mercedes glove compartment explodes in your face.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Erm, a statement on "http://www.reghardware.co.uk" is hardly the BBC admitting something ?
They do have their own websites for making such statements!!
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Hammond fixing his galleon then getting it stuck in the ceiling fan was the funniest thing I've seen on telly in ages
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The Vietnam special was fantastic
Woollyredhat
Active Member
Any idea where I can watch this? not the Iplayer, cause I amn't in the U.K.
Cheers ( meant the vietnam special btw, really want to see it.
Cheers ( meant the vietnam special btw, really want to see it.
Similar threads
