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None of this would have any effect if the game goes ahead in august, kicking off the season. And if it's at the end of the pre-season tour, then no extra flights even.

Then we follow gmarthews' idea of 1st vs 11th and so on.

And then his idea is totally irrelevant because deciding the fixtures based on league positions at the start of the season means anyone could be playing anyone couldn't they?

Anyway, what's all this about fairness? Is the EPL inherently fair? Is it fuck! It's grotesquely unfair to most clubs. In 16 years or so, just four teams have won it, and one of those is hardly likely to ever win it again.

Regardless of that, the way fixtures are constructed are based on a fair system. This is what I've been saying all the way through this thread, that adding an extra game totally imbalances that fair system, no?
 
This is strange, for if you don't think football, or the epl, has not already sold its soul, where have you been for years? Playing one game abroad is hardly an earth-shattering departure from the norm compared to some of the changes we've seen in the last decade or so.

If you're a real football fan, you'll take any change on the chin. You'll feel bad about it, but at some stage you will wake up one morning and it will be business as usual. How can you unfan yourself like this? It's impossible, more so than giving up fags.

Im not going to support a league that finishes in an odd and unfair number of games. Sorry, but thats not my way of doing things. Thats what i mean. It still has the tradition of the game there, but if it finishes in an odd number and the fixtures are decided on an unfair lottery and some teams have to go further than others in the world, then sorry i am not going to support that. Thank you for attacking me as a football fan though, tbh if you're a real football fan you wouldnt support this idea one bit.

It really is not impossible for me to give it up if this happens.
 
Well they felt that Tevez's registration was invalid and that he shouldn't have played for Westham, thus enabling them to stay up at their expense. IIRc, still all I'm saying is that anyone could make a case for unfairness of any system, it's in its nature. Any system will be imperfect even to the point of changing rules in football.

Why did we change the backpass rule?

because we were generally trying to improve the system, and that's what did, (in this case).
 
Im not going to support a league that finishes in an odd and unfair number of games. Sorry, but thats not my way of doing things. Thats what i mean. It still has the tradition of the game there, but if it finishes in an odd number and the fixtures are decided on an unfair lottery and some teams have to go further than others in the world, then sorry i am not going to support that. Thank you for attacking me as a football fan though, tbh if you're a real football fan you wouldnt support this idea one bit.

It really is not impossible for me to give it up if this happens.

I didn't attack you as a football fan.
You've missed the various posts where i've voiced concerns, and even the one where i decided that overall i'm now against the concept.
I've mentioned various ideas about how to cancel out obvious unfairnesses, including all five cities being in the same time zone.
It is only an idea, and all that was agreed was that the chairmen would meet to discuss this idea, not necessarily to implement it.
If it were to go ahead because of the power and lure of money, then surely better to at least get fans' input into how the concept would be set up into reality? If everybody in england is against it and continues to just say no, no, no, then the chairmen will not have had any input and ideas from the fans and media.

I tried giving football up about eight years ago. I tried to get it out of my blood. I didn't like the way the game was going with all this money stuff taking over. I tried.

I failed. I still watch tonnes of games. I still love what it does to me when goals get scored, when a beautiful passage of play occurs.

And even though i'm probably being too practical for an emotional game, emotionally and footballingly, i'm against the whole idea getting off the ground. But i still think it's going to happen at some point...
 
Well they felt that Tevez's registration was invalid and that he shouldn't have played for Westham, thus enabling them to stay up at their expense. IIRc, still all I'm saying is that anyone could make a case for unfairness of any system, it's in its nature. Any system will be imperfect even to the point of changing rules in football.

And what has that got to do with the league structure? Sheff Utd disagree(d) with a decision made by a PL disciplinary tribunal. Nothing to do with the structure of the season.

Just because a system contains some possible unfairness (i.e. matches involving teams who have already been relegated / qualified for europe) doesn't mean it's a good idea to ADD to it. Just because it already exists in a minor form doesn't mean you should make it worse.

Anyway, this isn't going to happen so we can all talk about something else. :)
 
Only reason the prem has been succesful is cause of the way it is now. If they change this to 39 games, itll all fall apart and people will lose interest in the unfairness of it once they realize the results of it if it did happen. And then if it were to fail, losing the world cup bid was all for nothing...
 
Seems like the EPL will have to wait until the bid for the World cup succeeds of fails before continuing this idea.

Oh well I'm sure they have the patience...
 
I like Platini, and think it's a real shame that the only former player we have in a bureaucratic position, Trevor Brooking, has his hands so tied by the twats only interested in the folding stuff. Platini needs to keep pushing his proposal to cut the "Champions" League entry down from the rich countries, and actually have the balls to say it's a shit system that rewards rich losers perpetuating the hierarchy.
 
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