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Top boy: stories of Hackney's young drug dealers. Channel 4.

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by Rutita1, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    yeah they fucked that up
    Kano even tweeted during episode 2 or 3 that the "timeline was fucked"
  2. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    yeah, the timeline was fucked up, really badly shown and if I was going to watch it again I might see if there were even any indications in the dealer timeline or the young teenagers timelines to indicate how much time was supposed to have passed.
    It was just one line in the opening episode when the vietnamese guy said how long the crop would take that gave a concrete indication of how much time is meant to be covered by the drama.
    None of it felt like 13 weeks had gone by, more like a few days or a week maybe..
  3. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    I gave it a go because I've liked a couple of the novels Ronan Bennett's done ( The Catastrophist and Havoc in its Third Year) and as I recall his scripts for Face and The Hamburg Cell were OK. Saw Public Enemies and that was a bit by the numbers, and so was this despite all the research, as has been said. One of them things where you've got a lot of talent involved for less than the sum of its parts.
  4. Divisive Cotton

    Divisive Cotton Now I just have my toy soldiers

    I don't know what you lot are moaning about that was a fucking excellent drama.
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  5. Stoat Boy

    Stoat Boy Banned Banned

    Enjoyed it although found the ending far to contrived.

    However the time line point is an interesting one and got me thinking that a show set over 13 weeks with the centre of it being the cultivation of a drugs 'crop' could be an interesting one with all the ins and outs that could be weaved into it.

    Not my world so could not even begin to formulate a plot line but as a backdrop to a drama, well I reckon it would work.
  6. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    when there is a murder in Hackney, the Hackney Gazette tends to sell out on Thursday when it comes out.
  7. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    No I really disagree - it'd didn't glamourise anything. If anything it was a bit to heavy with the family morality stuff, but not in a way that undermined the plot. I'm not saying it was strictly realistic but it was a good drama, well-scripted, for the most part well-acted.
  8. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath


    he wanted to get involved with the gang but Leon warned him off. Not too far fetched to see him roped in with the mj 'farm' etc.
  9. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Anyone know if it's going to be a one-off, or if a second series or mini-series has been commissioned?
  10. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    the ending suggested a second series - he's still standing, got away with it and that.
  11. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Whoever said the Eno soundtrack was good was OTM. Fine use of Fuck Buttons twice too. :cool:
  12. kalidarkone

    kalidarkone Up to my knees in amniotic fluid

    I did. What is OTM?
  13. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    On The Money
  14. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Owed Twenty Margaritas
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  15. Psychonaut

    Psychonaut Well-Known Member

    Hes ripping them off.
  16. Paulie Tandoori

    Paulie Tandoori shut it you egg!

    i agree that the acting was generally good, but the plotting was poor and the claims to represent "real life", whatever that is, were misleading and in danger of glamourising something which is usually much more mundane tbf.
  17. Edie

    Edie Well-Known Member

    I thought this was really good. I mean it's drama right, it's gotta have a good story at the risk of being a bit implausible. best thing I've seen for ages!
  18. Paulie Tandoori

    Paulie Tandoori shut it you egg!

    then why trailer the thing as being the result of "2 years research"? i have no problem with it as a complete work of fiction.
  19. Edie

    Edie Well-Known Member

    Well research could be just to get a feel of it, pick up the jargon, find out how drug dealing gangs operate etc. I mean I'd kinda know fuck all about it, and I'm not exactly without experience of drugs and London estates. It don't mean it's a 'true story' does it?
  20. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    Tippa Irie Top Boy vid
  21. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    I think it was on the Grauniad website the other, they'd played it to a load of young males from Hackney and the area and they said the main gripe was that there was no sign whatsoever of the police.
  22. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Did anyone watch the start of the new series last night? Very good stuff.

    Channel 4 is having a bit of a golden summer with drama; first The Returned, then Souythcliffe, and now this. :cool:
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  23. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.


    haven't watched the first episode of the SECOND series yet, but will do.
  24. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Wicked, Wicked, HYSTERICAL!

    To my surprise I started this thread and don't remember watching even one episode :hmm:
  25. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Not seen the new one yet, but this is a quality thread bump.
  26. ringo

    ringo Macaroni cheese controller

    Pretty good, better than the 1st series I reckon. The little homeless lad is a good character, acted well too. Things will not go well for him, I predict.
  27. youngian

    youngian Well-Known Member

    So the shadey solitictor wants to do Ashley Walters's laundry and not his socks. With the gentrification sub-plot going on I think can see where this is leading. Still streets ahead of most British gangster stuff.
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  28. Paulie Tandoori

    Paulie Tandoori shut it you egg!

  29. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    A good score too, selected and/or composed by Eno I think.
  30. bmd

    bmd you left me standing here

    Solicitor turns up to a murder case and agrees to a drink with the suspect. Fuck off! It looks like she's setting him up for something but even so, there are bounds to believability.

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