fishfingerer
sultan of cringe
Come to think of it, Bonobas spent much of the 80's pretending to be from some mid west US shithole like Slackjaw Ohio or somewhere.editor said:
Top 10 most influential contemporary musicians over the last 50 years
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i deliberately put a 50 year cap on it to keep blues out of the pciture or it would just get too complex
muddy waters, bb king and robert johnson would all have to be there
i didnt rate rampling over kraftwork, but it was rampling who brought the balearic sound over from ibiza abd kickstarted the rave scene in london, as well as pioneered dance music on radio 1
muddy waters, bb king and robert johnson would all have to be there
i didnt rate rampling over kraftwork, but it was rampling who brought the balearic sound over from ibiza abd kickstarted the rave scene in london, as well as pioneered dance music on radio 1
Johnny Canuck3
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Miles Davis
Buddy Rich
B B King
Robert Johnson
Buddy Rich
B B King
Robert Johnson
Yes but without Run DMC Dre might not have existed, or if he did wouldn't have been half as successful/influential himself, they took rap/hop forward and made it mainstream; Walk This Way blew it wide open, Chuck D always praised them highly and thanked them for taking it a few rungs up the ladder.
BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
If you're talking in terms of three-minute pop sensibility, in that department ABBA would crush S/A/W in the same way that a steamhammer would crush a mollosc.smokedout said:
I don't think anyone outside northern Europe has even really heard of them, have they? And here they're largely considered kitsch frippery.
BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
In that case, surely Kylie counts on her own terms?smokedout said:
After all, she left S/A/W in 1992 - nine years before 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head', internationally speaking a way more influential and well-known song than 'I Should Be So Lucky'.
Edit: at Skim.
They wrote the lyrics and the music IIRC, admittidly all done "on a keyboard" in a studio reworking the same basic song. I dunno if they qualify tbh, there was throwaway pop before them, girl bands and pretty boy pop stars had been around for ages, and there would've been more silly pop if they hadn't have existed IMO.
They wrote the lyrics and the music IIRC, admittidly all done "on a keyboard" in a studio reworking the same basic song. I dunno if they qualify tbh, there was throwaway pop before them, girl bands and pretty boy pop stars had been around for ages, and there would've been more silly pop if they hadn't have existed IMO.
BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
That's a good point - FWICR S/A/W were vehement in their denial of musicianship, as though that were the exclusive affliction of cheeseclothed folk curmudgeons with alcohol and hygiene problems.Skim said:
Dirty Martini
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acid priest said:
Great name for a band.
Flashman said:
I agree with many of these. I agree with the omission of the Stones .... they were and always have been first and foremost a blues band; they never innovated in the same way that the Beatles did.
Bob Dylan - key for millions of alt-rockers and folkies all over the world.
Bowie - absolutely - across a number of genres within which he's worked.
Kraftwerk - totally so, although it's probably hard to separate out their influence from other electronic/krautrock pioneers.
Elvis - yes.
Beatles - yes.
Velvet Underground - definitely .... every indie guitar band ever namechecks them as a major revelation in their musical development.
The Smiths - although they were massive for an indie guitar band at the time, again I have to question whether they are actually a key influence for many bands in terms of their music.
James Brown - yeah!
Run DMC - I can't really say I know enough about the formative years of hip-hop to know whether this is justified, but certainly the genre has become so massive that one pioneer must appear in this list.
Kate Bush - interesting choice. She'd probably make my top 50 but not a top 10.
So I'd replace The Smiths and Kate Bush with Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix. They were the real pioneers of hard rock and I think marginally more influential than Black Sabbath.
Other possibilities exist. Hank Marvin? A seminal country artist and highly regarded by many indie artists .... The The even recorded a whole album of covers of his songs if I remember right.
BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
Ah...I think that might be Hank Williams you're thinking of...aylee said:
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Sir George Martin.
acid priest said:Ah...I think that might be Hank Williams you're thinking of...
As the man said. Sorry, I was up half the night packing stuff for a house move.
Although having said that, Hank Marvin invented that twangy strat sound that was so ubiquitous for many years that it even induced Fender's rivals to change the way that they made guitars.
BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
Right - and it has to be conceded that 'Telstar' inspired a generation of beat boomers to pick up guitars in the first place.aylee said:
Two more rabidly influential artists that clearly must hover inside any top ten:
Stevie Wonder
Marvin Gaye
And if we're talking the roots of rap, where's Gil Scott-Heron and The Last Poets? Admittedly they're not household names, but the genuinely greatest influences are often obscured by more successful subsequent practitioners.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Orang Utan said:
You could argue that AFX simply repackaged the hardcore/jungle c94 sound, but then as that's a collective thing i.e. not artist led it's ignored.
Think the 90s and all those Britpop ego's that's how history is written. AFX is simply a figure head for a wider explosion in music teknology & post-rave.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
No, he didn't. Pete Tong was the first I think and he was only employed by Radio 1, cop the masses were already turned on to it and weren't listening anymore.smokedout said:
DJWrongspeed said:
i'm not sure that's true. His early stuff didn't really fit that at all.
fishfingerer
sultan of cringe
Wynonie Harris.
50 years ago = 1956Kaka Tim said:
BB King cut his first ever record in 1949, did his first national tourin 1952 and recorded his biggest hit (The Thrill Is Gone) in 1966. He only became well known in the US mainstream in the 60s.
see here: http://www.worldblues.com/bbking/prairie/star.html
Muddy Waters started recording properly in 1948 and his most productive period was c. 1950 to 1955, which admittedly just falls outside the 50 year period.
see here: http://www.muddywaters.com/bio.html
I don't think either artist could be called a 1940s artist - they were both from the next generation.
well no cos he was dead
bb king and muddy waters continued to make records but as said in the last 50 years their influence was negligible
cant believe there hasnt been more support for chuck berry, hed be my number one, id fight to the death to keep elvis out, id accept buddy holly over him any day, but even so not to the exclusion of chuck
hank marvin is not as daft as it seems, a very influential guitarist, one of the reasons id fight for chuck berry and hendrix is their influence on guitar players, the dominant instrument in contemporary music over the last 50 years
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i think theres a bit of an emperors new clothes syndrome about atists like velvet underground, kraftwork, can ... theyre very trendy artists to name check and were all influential in developing a sound, but its not a sound you hear much of today ... dance music/rave/electronic would have happened without kraftwork imo
you might be right about tong being before rampling on radio 1, though id say rampling did it better, but rampling was far more important at a grassroots level, he launched shoom ffs
AFX may have been massively influential on the jungle scene but its a bit of a niche market id say
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