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MatthewCuffe

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This Dossier Shall Not Be Dodged

If you do not like Tony Benn's politics, please suspend all you know about him for the following minute or so. Just read about what he has done and then connect it to the big picture. This post will self-destruct the moment you finish reading it. Our Mission is Possible, but only if we all work like demons over the forthcoming month.

Tony Benn has written a dossier detailing the 28 crimes and contraventions of international law (UN charter, Geneva and Hague conventions) committed in the Iraq war - a war which Kofi Annan and the Pope of the time declared illegal. Attack Dog Reid wants to rewrite international law so that he can make war. The wars of Reid will be nuclear.

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=4387768#post4387768

Tony Benn has sent his dossier to Annan who has declared it 'serious' and passed it to the UN commissioner for Human Rights. He has also sent it to Attorney-General Lord Goldsmith who declared the war illegal in private. It has taken 3 months for Goldsmith's office to reply to Tony Benn - and with a rather strange reply that we should have a proper reply by April 7th. Perhaps Mr.Benn's dossier did not time very well with the Iran war plans.

So. We await April 7th. Meanwhile 156 MPs have signed early day motion 1088 calling for a proper investigation into the deceptions of three years ago.

If your MP has not signed EDM 1088 yet, give them verbal hell. Remind them that we have elections coming up on May 4th.

We need to use those elections on May 4th.

Non-voting is not apathy. It is alienation. When so many politicians do not listen to the people, the people do not want to talk to them.

So alienation from the mainstream system is understandable - it has failed us. However, we must use every front going in our war of peace. A nuclear war with Iran awaits us if we do not get our acts together. The May 4th ballot boxes are one of several fronts and we would be foolish not to fire off peaceful broadsides at the New Labour regime everywhere we can. Find the spirit of Robin Hood and the Agincourt archers and then proceed accordingly. Make it non-violent, creative and joyous. If we use violence against them they will thieve the final two and a half liberties we have left.

http://www.impeachblair.org
http://blairwitch.typepad.com

Good luck in your missions! Let's end the Cuban Missile Crisis of 2006. You all know exactly what you did next.
 
I hope this goes somewhere and Benn will no doubt do all he can do in his position but -

it would be far more effective (and fun) if the betrayed people of britain marched in their thousands on downing st/parliament to perform a mass citizens arrest on the war criminals.

However i have no doubt the STWC will never adovocate anything so horribly confrontational, effective and without the support of the police.
 
MatthewCuffe said:
So. We await April 7th. Meanwhile 156 MPs have signed early day motion 1088 calling for a proper investigation into the deceptions of three years ago.

If your MP has not signed EDM 1088 yet, give them verbal hell. Remind them that we have elections coming up on May 4th.

We need to use those elections on May 4th.


Good luck in your missions! Let's end the Cuban Missile Crisis of 2006. You all know exactly what you did next.
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My MP has not signed this EDM. I have just e-mailed him to ask if he will sign it and if not, why not?
 
MatthewCuffe said:
I will march with you.

Spread the word.
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Matthew, take a look at what people power just managed in thailand. Demonstrations every week for about four months. The momemtum was such that the leader has finally caved in, last night. He could not continue. He stayed on as long as possible, arrogant to the last, but in the end, how can one man withstand the sheer force of thousands?

He is gone because too many in thailand across all sectors of society decided he no longer had legitimacy to rule, and they spoke, and they gathered, and they marched. Not once, but once a week. After about three/four months of this, the straw broke the camel's back.

Political life is just a numbers game mate!
 
fela fan said:
Matthew, take a look at what people power just managed in thailand. Demonstrations every week for about four months. The momemtum was such that the leader has finally caved in, last night. He could not continue. He stayed on as long as possible, arrogant to the last, but in the end, how can one man withstand the sheer force of thousands?

He is gone because too many in thailand across all sectors of society decided he no longer had legitimacy to rule, and they spoke, and they gathered, and they marched. Not once, but once a week. After about three/four months of this, the straw broke the camel's back.

Political life is just a numbers game mate!
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And will now be replaced by a clone.
 
fela fan said:
Matthew, take a look at what people power just managed in thailand. Demonstrations every week for about four months. The momemtum was such that the leader has finally caved in, last night. He could not continue. He stayed on as long as possible, arrogant to the last, but in the end, how can one man withstand the sheer force of thousands?

He is gone because too many in thailand across all sectors of society decided he no longer had legitimacy to rule, and they spoke, and they gathered, and they marched. Not once, but once a week. After about three/four months of this, the straw broke the camel's back.

Political life is just a numbers game mate!
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Absolutely - if enough people take to the streets and defy the government they crumble - in the past 18 months weve had many examples of this - from the 'colour' revolutions in former soviet republics to thialand to France.

The 'constitution' and controls that are supposed to protect citizens from the caprices of the state have been shown to be woefully inadequate. We must not allow our leaders to get away with treason, deception and the deaths of thousands.

OK - Blair will replaced by yet another egoist in a suit and the fundemental power structures will remain in place. However a 'peoples push' that brings down Blair will draw a line for future rulers indicating that the British people will only take so much abuse.

I really dont think Blair could stand a popular revolt on the scale of something like the poll tax. Hes weak, his authority is ebbing yet he is fixed on securing his 'legacy' for posterity. Now is the time to strike - then his 'legacy' will be the arrogant deceiver and war monger who was forced out by the wrath of the people.

How about a march on foot starting up north somewhere and gathering numbers as we went - like the old school popular rebellions and the Jarrow crusade? Good publicity, tie it in with the impeachment campaign and fix a arrival date for a mass march on parliament - ideally on a date when we know the chief suspects will be there.

Bring handcuffs, charge sheet, orange jump suit, noose etc ..
 
Time for an Orange Revolution in jump-suits.

Time for Jarrow Crusades.

Time for a General Strike.

Time for a Citizen's Arrest Bureau armed with a petition for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to go to the High Court (or the ICC in the Hague) to march on Downing Street.

It is not just numbers.

Quality AS WELL AS quantity is important.

Those who want the regime to end and Blair to face justice for war crimes have a just cause. The quality is there. Why is everyone so passive and so docile, glued to their KY-TV and their McPlaystations?

What has happened to our spirit in this land?
 
neprimerimye said:
And will now be replaced by a clone.
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Well if marching against corrupt government that has caused death,destruction and misery both here and abroad " makes me a clone"...so be it.
i will march too....can we have an urbanites section..its bound to be the best looking and most interesting section there.
 
Let's face facts. The Urbanites VANGUARD will be the sexiest looking, sexiest acting, sexiest being. Our dossiers are sexier than anyone else's, after all.

Reclaim our democracy street by street, boulevard by boulevard, Acacia Avenue by Acacia Avenue.

Enough of Blair's Banana Slip Republic.
 
MatthewCuffe said:
Time for an Orange Revolution in jump-suits.

Time for Jarrow Crusades.

Time for a General Strike.

Time for a Citizen's Arrest Bureau armed with a petition for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to go to the High Court (or the ICC in the Hague) to march on Downing Street.

It is not just numbers.

Quality AS WELL AS quantity is important.

Those who want the regime to end and Blair to face justice for war crimes have a just cause. The quality is there. Why is everyone so passive and so docile, glued to their KY-TV and their McPlaystations?

What has happened to our spirit in this land?
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Both the Jarrow Crusade and the General Strike FAILED. And orange hurts my eyes. especially when it is paid for by the Soros Foundation as in Ukraine and Serbia.
 
fela fan said:
Matthew, take a look at what people power just managed in thailand. Demonstrations every week for about four months. The momemtum was such that the leader has finally caved in, last night. He could not continue. He stayed on as long as possible, arrogant to the last, but in the end, how can one man withstand the sheer force of thousands?

He is gone because too many in thailand across all sectors of society decided he no longer had legitimacy to rule, and they spoke, and they gathered, and they marched. Not once, but once a week. After about three/four months of this, the straw broke the camel's back.

Political life is just a numbers game mate!
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"Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793, but regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty for ever." - Albert Camus
 
Kaka Tim said:
I hope this goes somewhere and Benn will no doubt do all he can do in his position but -

it would be far more effective (and fun) if the betrayed people of britain marched in their thousands on downing st/parliament to perform a mass citizens arrest on the war criminals.

However i have no doubt the STWC will never adovocate anything so horribly confrontational, effective and without the support of the police.
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not that it's a bad idea in itself, but, don't you think the police might side with Tony Blair rather than the people, and stand in the way with a lot of riot shields, batons, and whatever else was necessary?
 
You should see my bank balance. If only the Soros foundation was bankrolling some of us, we would be knights of the realm by now!

To say the Jarrow Crusade and the General Strike failed is a very strong assertion. In the short-term perhaps - but in the long run? Think marathon, not sprint.

Did the French Revolution 'fail' or, as Chou en-Lai said, is it too early to say?

Perhaps the success was deferred.

Personally I am not up for another French Revolution. Sick and tired of the reign of terror from this Ministry of Public Enlightenment that we have had foisted upon us since 1997.
 
MatthewCuffe said:
You should see my bank balance. If only the Soros foundation was bankrolling some of us, we would be knights of the realm by now!

To say the Jarrow Crusade and the General Strike failed is a very strong assertion. In the short-term perhaps - but in the long run? Think marathon, not sprint.

Did the French Revolution 'fail' or, as Chou en-Lai said, is it too early to say?

Perhaps the success was deferred.

Personally I am not up for another French Revolution. Sick and tired of the reign of terror from this Ministry of Public Enlightenment that we have had foisted upon us since 1997.
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To say the Jarrow Crusade and the General Strike failed is simply to state historical fact. The real point here is that the leaderships of those struggles foredoomed them to defeat.

The french revolution succeeded in its aims of laying the foundations of bourgeois society. Zhou Enlai was a cynical old bastard. Clever bastard mind.

Personally I'm not up for another French Revolution either cos that was done in this country by Cromswell.

No need for a 'French Revolution' in this country anyhow given that the likes of Soros get all they want from Blair already.
 
Those who participated in the Jarrow crusade and the General Strike - and in so doing helped lay the foundations for the Beveridge Report and the application of the welfare state by the Labour government of 1945-51 - are turning in their graves at the cynicism and lack of spirit amongst the youth in this country today.

That is what eight years of bullying by Anthony Charles Lynton Blair has done to us.

Time to wake up from our zombified slumbers.
 
MatthewCuffe said:
Those who participated in the Jarrow crusade and the General Strike - and in so doing helped lay the foundations for the Beveridge Report and the application of the welfare state by the Labour government of 1945-51 - are turning in their graves at the cynicism and lack of spirit amongst the youth in this country today.

That is what eight years of bullying by Anthony Charles Lynton Blair has done to us.

Time to wake up from our zombified slumbers.
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The Jarrow Crusade had nothing to do with the Beveridge Report but was about begging for jobs. The Hunger Marches run by the national Unem[ployed Workers Movement, despite its Stalinist leadership, were about demanding work or full pay. As a result of thier more militant direct action tactics the latter did at least win some gains for those the unemployed. I write as a former Right to Work Marcher who never begged for benefits but demanded them as of right.

Nor was the General Strike about begging for welfare rights but was about the solidarity of workers when our rights are threatened by the boss class. I write as one who has fought for those rights for decades. So kindly do not falisfy the proud history of the working class in this country in the name of pathetic crumbs like welfare rights.

We build the fucking bakery its all ours not just the crumbs. The same is true in Thailand but if all that can be done is the replacement of Thaksin or Blair by another IMF approved flunkey or Gordon Brown then nothing of value has been achieved but a fraud perpetuated.
 
MatthewCuffe said:
Tony Benn has written a dossier detailing the 28 crimes and contraventions of international law (UN charter, Geneva and Hague conventions) committed in the Iraq war - a war which Kofi Annan and the Pope of the time declared illegal.
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I’m not sure having John Paul and the UN on your side adds any moral authority. I like Tony Benn but to think he’s going to affect any change or embarrass the unembarrassable is fantasy.
 
I e-mailed my MP on this too. He voted against the war (but for virtually everything else) so it will be interesting to see what he has to say.
 
Kaka Tim said:
I hope this goes somewhere and Benn will no doubt do all he can do in his position but -

it would be far more effective (and fun) if the betrayed people of britain marched in their thousands on downing st/parliament to perform a mass citizens arrest on the war criminals.

However i have no doubt the STWC will never adovocate anything so horribly confrontational, effective and without the support of the police.
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What a splendid idea! :cool:
 
Democracy in action!

MatthewCuffe said:
..... Meanwhile 156 MPs have signed early day motion 1088 calling for a proper investigation into the deceptions of three years ago.

If your MP has not signed EDM 1088 yet, give them verbal hell. Remind them that we have elections coming up on May 4th.

We need to use those elections on May 4th.

Non-voting is not apathy. It is alienation. When so many politicians do not listen to the people, the people do not want to talk to them. ...

I took Matthew's advice and e-mailed my MP (the day before yesterday I think) asking him if he intended to sign EDM1088, and if not, why not.

He has just replied:

"Thank you for your email and for drawing this EDM to my attention.
Once back in Parliament after the Easter break, I will happily sign it.


Best wishes"


Democracy in action! ;)
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Just do it!

I have also contacted my MP to ask if he will sign this particular EDM. By the way, there is a very easy way to contact MPs. It is through the website:

http://www.writetothem.com/

You just type in your postcode and the name of your MP is shown and you can e-mail him/her directly.

I have used this website a few times to e-mail my MP. :cool:
 
Just written to my MP and asked the question. I'm assuming he has, though. Will check back with results.
 
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