tonights wife swap

[Melinda]

What I didn't understand was why she made that poor little girl eat rotten sludgy bananas? I thought it was a bit of cereal she left

The little girl managed to pour the cereal into the sink when she got back fro school. The Freegan Extremist caught her and felt thwarted and undermined.

So she forced the little girl eat banana sludge. Jesus told her to do it.

 

[wishface]

stuff only gets binned because of potential litigation. They probably legally can't sell something with a spoilt outer wrapper (like the maltesers). I've no problem with bin raiding and agree with the principles of waste, but it's not simply a case of evil supermarkets throwing their profits down the toilet for laughs.

 

[wishface]

Why would anyone want to defend those holier than thou sanctimonious preachers?

Raiding skips is fair enough if you are homeless, but they chose to live like that and it's not fair on their child. Like Kidda, I wondered how their kid could get a balanced diet if they were dependent on what was being thrown away each night.

I do think it's appalling the amount of stuff they throw away, but you wouldn't catch me rifling through a bin unless I was actually starving.

what do they do about medicine? That's not free if you aren't onbenefits. What about clothes and toiletries?

 

[i_hate_beckham]

A fried-out combi?

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

LMFAO! LMFAO!

Taking the posho family bin raiding and then insisting the little girl eats day old rice crispies!

This is the funniest thing Ive seen in sooooooooo long!

That wasnt funny, it was sad and exploitative. The woman was a passive aggressive bully.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

stuff only gets binned because of potential litigation. They probably legally can't sell something with a spoilt outer wrapper (like the maltesers). I've no problem with bin raiding and agree with the principles of waste, but it's not simply a case of evil supermarkets throwing their profits down the toilet for laughs.

If I thought I could get away with it Id probably be up for a bit of it. I dont however believe that the type of stuff they were showing is thrown away every single day.

 

[mozzy]

As i'm bored, i did a search on "Jesus Christians" (which I think they said there were), and found more stuff about it being a dangerous cult than anything else:-

http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=3&id=30&Itemid=8


I think these sects are quite big in Oz - there are even articles about how members have to "donate" one of their kidneys as we only need one.

Wieeeerd bunch of people is an understatement!

 

[Stobart Stopper]

What about clothes and toiletries?

There wasn't much evidence of washing IMO, the bloke especially looked really minging. Like he's at Glastonbury all year round.

 

[cliche guevara]

If I thought I could get away with it Id probably be up for a bit of it. I dont however believe that the type of stuff they were showing is thrown away every single day.

Well, it is, for reasons which wishface explained above in post 62.

 

[Melinda]

That wasnt funny, it was sad and exploitative. The woman was a passive aggressive bully.

I was laughing at the outrageousness of her behaviour.

The little girl's dad was there the whole time, he saved her and soothed her- no damage was done.

 

[cliche guevara]

There wasn't much evidence of washing IMO, the bloke especially looked really minging. Like he's at Glastonbury all year round.

I noticed that he didn't change his jumper for the entirety of the filming. Nice.

 

[Louloubelle]

I wouldn't want to eat food from a bin, not least of which because rats and mice might have had a nibble *shudders*

I can see some validation in the freegan thing re how it makes sense to not waste stuff, however they were white and middle class and had they been darker skinned or less middle class looking they probably would have been arrested or beaten up or something by now.

It just seems to me that the freegan thing is much more likely to work for people don't who attract projections of wrongness from the majority of the population, so anyone really poor or homeless or who had disadvantages they didn't have or who was on the receiving end of an "ism" might be more in need of the food but less likely to be able to get it.

I thought that the wealthy people were really lovely and actually quite humble given their considerable wealth.

I felt really sorry for the freegan son, how embarrassing to have lazy, selfish, bonkers parents like that, poor kid.

 

[cliche guevara]

I wouldn't want to eat food from a bin, not least of which because rats and mice might have had a nibble *shudders*

TBF, a lot of it looked sealed and perfectly good.

I can see some validation in the freegan thing re how it makes sense to not waste stuff, however they were white and middle class and had they been darker skinned or less middle class looking they probably would have been arrested or beaten up or something by now.

Yup.

It just seems to me that the freegan thing is much more likely to work for people don't who attract projections of wrongness from the majority of the population, so anyone really poor or homeless or who had disadvantages they didn't have or who was on the receiving end of an "ism" might be more in need of the food but less likely to be able to get it.

Yup.

I thought that the wealthy people were really lovely and actually quite humble given their considerable wealth.

Yup.

I felt really sorry for the freegan son, how embarrassing to have lazy, selfish, bonkers parents like that, poor kid.

Yup.

 

[Louloubelle]

stuff only gets binned because of potential litigation. They probably legally can't sell something with a spoilt outer wrapper (like the maltesers). I've no problem with bin raiding and agree with the principles of waste, but it's not simply a case of evil supermarkets throwing their profits down the toilet for laughs.

A local supermarket to me was fined heavily for selling flan bases where mice had gotten into the packaging and left droppings there. I would have thought that those bins would attract all kinds of vermin apart from lazy hippies, so they wouldn't really know what had crawled over or sampled the food

*feels eeew just thinking about it*

 

[Melinda]

I thought that the wealthy people were really lovely and actually quite humble given their considerable wealth.

Agreed.

I felt really sorry for the freegan son, how embarrassing to have lazy, selfish, bonkers parents like that, poor kid.

Can you imagine the shit he is going to get at school today?! Every last person at his scholl will know how he lives.

 

[cliche guevara]

Can you imagine the shit he is going to get at school today?! Every last person at his scholl will know how he lives.

I hadn't even considered that. Poor kid. He came across as really grounded and mature, so hopefully that'll help him, but I can't see 11-16 yr olds taking that into consideration, unfortunately.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

A little part of my conspiraloon brain is still wondering if the Freegans are for real, can't help but think maybe the whole thing has been dreamed up by someone at Channel 4. I am not doubting they are a real family, but could it have all been made up, the kid could have had home schooling for the best part of his life, and they might have lived in a house etc.

 

[_angel_]

That rich bloke was proper frothing at the mouth about how they would get free nhs treatment though.

Having said that the oddball jesus people seemed a bit mad as well. They must have an alternative source of income from somewhere, where do their clothes, toiletries, medicine, fuel bills come from etc?

 

[cliche guevara]

That rich bloke was proper frothing at the mouth about how they would get free nhs treatment though.

Having said that the oddball jesus people seemed a bit mad as well. They must have an alternative source of income from somewhere, where do their clothes, toiletries, medicine, fuel bills come from etc?

I was suprised he contained himself so well to be honest. No sympathy for the rich, but his point is valid, these people contributed nothing, using religion as an excuse.

I assumed their money for food etc came from the donations that they begged for?

 

[_angel_]

I was suprised he contained himself so well to be honest. No sympathy for the rich, but his point is valid, these people contributed nothing, using religion as an excuse.

I assumed their money for food etc came from the donations that they begged for?

I think the jesus people were barmy but don't like the idea that people have to justify their worth just in order to get healthcare. It's kind of scary really.

I also got the impression they must have had private funding from somewhere else other than their begging/ charity efforts.

 

[Louloubelle]

Can you imagine the shit he is going to get at school today?! Every last person at his scholl will know how he lives.

I would hope that he would be treated with respect by the other kids

Kids can surprise you like that

I was bullied mercilessly at school for all kinds of reasons including that I was a "state" (wore lots of tatty 2nd hand clothes), I was a teacher's pet (true) and other reasons. After 2 events that should have just got them even more on my case (one involved other kids actually meeting my parents for the first time) they became really protective towards me and stopped bullying me.

Kids can be kind as well as bullies and I would hope that this boy (and he was a really nice kid yes?) will get lots of invitations over for tea and to play with playstations etc. I doubt that many kids will be visiting him however

 

[Louloubelle]

I also got the impression they must have had private funding from somewhere else other than their begging/ charity efforts.

I suspect that there's a rich mummy and daddy somewhere in the equation

 

[cliche guevara]

I think the jesus people were barmy but don't like the idea that people have to justify their worth just in order to get healthcare. It's kind of scary really.

I also got the impression they must have had private funding from somewhere else other than their begging/ charity efforts.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in free healthcare for all, but it's easy to see why it angered him, with the amount of tax he must be paying.

It'd be interesting to know where their money came from, but I get the feeling we'll never know.

 

[smokedout]

It just seems to me that the freegan thing is much more likely to work for people don't who attract projections of wrongness from the majority of the population, so anyone really poor or homeless or who had disadvantages they didn't have or who was on the receiving end of an "ism" might be more in need of the food but less likely to be able to get it.

loads of 'really poor' or homeless folk skip food, like picking up fruit and veg dropped in markets its been a staple of underclass life for years

 

[Louloubelle]

loads of 'really poor' or homeless folk skip food, like picking up fruit and veg dropped in markets its been a staple of underclass life for years

I used to go to the market stalls at the end of the day many years ago when I was really poor and used to get given fruit that was good but would not last until tomorrow, or stuff that was bruised. I had friends that did it too. People on market stalls can be kind like that and would rather give the food away than see it go to waste. But that's not, IMO, the same as bin raiding.

 

[_angel_]

Don't get me wrong, I believe in free healthcare for all, but it's easy to see why it angered him, with the amount of tax he must be paying.

It'd be interesting to know where their money came from, but I get the feeling we'll never know.

I have a problem with the idea paid work is the only way you are allowed to feel moral. What if they'd been volunteers helping people? I reckon he'd still have been foaming at the mouth.

Anyhow, I do think the campervan jesus couple were selfish and inconsiderate but not simply because they didn't 'work'.

 

[cliche guevara]

I have a problem with the idea paid work is the only way you are allowed to feel moral. What if they'd been volunteers helping people? I reckon he'd still have been foaming at the mouth.

Anyhow, I do think the campervan jesus couple were selfish and inconsiderate but not simply because they didn't 'work'.

I don't think he would. His problem was that they didn't contribute, volunteers do contribute.

 

[wishface]

A local supermarket to me was fined heavily for selling flan bases where mice had gotten into the packaging and left droppings there. I would have thought that those bins would attract all kinds of vermin apart from lazy hippies, so they wouldn't really know what had crawled over or sampled the food

*feels eeew just thinking about it*

well it seemed that they ate stuff that wasn't compromised. Surely to god no one would eat exposed binned produce.

 

[wishface]

If I thought I could get away with it Id probably be up for a bit of it. I dont however believe that the type of stuff they were showing is thrown away every single day.

well quite, chances are, aside from appearing on cctv, you will likely find a whole load of smelly skanky shit even they wouldn't touch with a ten foot bargepole.

 

[Melinda]

I would hope that he would be treated with respect by the other kids

Kids can surprise you like that

I was bullied mercilessly at school for all kinds of reasons including that I was a "state" (wore lots of tatty 2nd hand clothes), I was a teacher's pet (true) and other reasons. After 2 events that should have just got them even more on my case (one involved other kids actually meeting my parents for the first time) they became really protective towards me and stopped bullying me.

We can but hope about the aftermath of the show for the boy. Maybe people will be kind and friends' parents will invite him round.

But I would think the kid already stands out at school. Keeping clean in a van cant be easy. Like you say, kids notice these things.

His mother seemed to object to doing any house work at all in the posh home. Several times she asked why they didnt have a cleaner- I'd put money on that kid ironing his own school shirts.

If I were him, it would be the pitying looks from staff and friends parents that would make me want to beg my parents to get a house.