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Today was the start of the Great Miners’ Strike of 1984/85.

yes dear, i read your hypocritical drivel before, when you tried to post it up as a call out thread. daft apeth.

really, stick to copying n pasting, when you actually try and write you just embarrass yourself even more.

well done on proving dennis' point just perfectly tho
 
e19896 said:
So friends or family was not impacted by the strike, i did not see my step Dad die in 1986 following the strike, friends or family do not live in the community that has just been fucked over, and what the fuck would i know, except ive herd all the hot air from so called union reps and self proclaimed community leaders befor, of course one is just a ranter and you are whome might i ask?
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Look tithead - I spend the entire year on the picket line - I lived, breathed, ate and went hungry with my mates who were striking miners. I lived for three years following the strike with a load of young Welsh ex-miners who had lost their jobs.

fuck off you stupid fuck

in reply to your question dickhead - i am someone who has spent their entire adult life supporting the struggles of and living among working class communities

really, do yourself a favour pinhead and go and have a wank - at least you may be successful in something then?
 
belboid said:
yes dear, i read your hypocritical drivel before, when you tried to post it up as a call out thread. daft apeth.

really, stick to copying n pasting, when you actually try and write you just embarrass yourself even more.

well done on proving dennis' point just perfectly tho
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Never was posted any where other than there, and fuck of i aint you dear or love anything of the kind..

Come on do tell where there is any un-truth in there, of course none, you did spaeak with the media i used them direct, ie cut an past are you saying you it was wrong?

Oh we well we all get shafted from time to time..
 
dennisr said:
Look tithead - I spend the entire year on the picket line - I lived, breathed, ate and went hungry with my mates who were striking miners. I lived for three years following the strike with a load of young Welsh ex-miners who had lost their jobs.

fuck off you stupid fuck
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Now come on comrade, so did i and have watched communitys become fucked..

Was i saying anything else, no but i was attacking so called union reps and community leaders we have seen what little they have done for The Working Class have we not?
 
e19896 said:
Now come on comrade, so did i and have watched communitys become fucked..

Was i saying anything else, no but i was attacking so called union reps and community leaders we have seen what little they have done for The Working Class have we not?
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You said nothing. You postured with some half-baked macho shite. You talk as though it is a light duty battering someone - even your worst enemies - it isn't.

I was 18 when the strike ended - I made the decision to learn and understand my enemies - who my enemies are, how their system and tactics worked, how to to see opportunities, build alliances rather than piss off those who are not my enemies, learn and spread our history not thier version, etc etc etc - and try to defeat them whenever I had the chance. That was also what the lads were doing I lived with - two of the three are still active 25 years after, so am I. We wanted to learn from the defeat not be smothered by it.

You, you are just a gobshite - gets angry and learns nothing and kicks out at anybody without thinking - people like you are liabilities - not 'comrades'.
 
belboid said:
tut tut, cant stop lying can you, what else can anyone expect from an 'internet activist' like your goodself?

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=280746

The rest of your 'comment' doesn't actually make sense. As normal.
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Why on earth i find myself even in any form of engagment with an inconsequesential person such as one dose ponder, but none the less i forgot, but read it make no attack or even links to the other copy on you..

Nither can you stop lying so it seems, oh please do tell why did you take a job with such people, when you knew full well what they had done was doing to the community around, are you not on the same road that objected to The Sqauters on Woodside, who by the way saved some of the homes.

Please do tell your thoughts on the current round of blaim game being played by the people you work for and where do you stand on this?

Now remeber this aint a lie if forgot about the post, nither is it one when i speak of the fact i lived there and left due to my own resons, still have friends family who live there so i know what is going down.

Your thoughts on the gentifaction of the araea of which i understand you have been a strong suporter of..

Your all mouth on here as we have read in real life you are to be frank nowt, and befor you begin to say more bullshit let me inform you well ready to deal, as to be honest you have done nothing for the community you live in but been one of those parasites that moved in and has taken, or have you given anything back?
 
lol, your ignorance knows no bounds.

fuck off mozaz, your posturing is pathetic, and your lies obvious to all.

bye bye
 
dennisr said:
You said nothing. You postured with some half-baked macho shite. You talk as though it is a light duty battering someone - even your worst enemies - it isn't.

I was 18 when the strike ended - I made the decision to learn and understand my enemies - who my enemies are, how their system and tactics worked, how to to see opportunities, build alliances rather than piss off those who are not my enemies, learn and spread our history not thier version, etc etc etc - and try to defeat them whenever I had the chance. That was also what the lads were doing I lived with - two of the three are still active 25 years after, so am I. We wanted to learn from the defeat not be smothered by it.

You, you are just a gobshite - gets angry and learns nothing and kicks out at anybody without thinking - people like you are liabilities - not 'comrades'.
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Little do you know, and i hope you do understand this, i do not speak to open about then, even 25 years on i have not forgoten those who fucked us over, time for me will never heal, i watched my step Dad die, and as far as one is concerned he was killed..
 
belboid said:
lol, your ignorance knows no bounds.

fuck off mozaz, your posturing is pathetic, and your lies obvious to all.

bye bye
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And your posturing is not pathetic?

Come on what lies, as said i forgot, and if you read there is nothing about you on that post, nither will i follow you down some path, you must think one is a fool with no understanding of where you live, do remeber i know much and one is just posturing as you put it, but i like to call it waiteing for time..
 
treelover said:
Apparently, Scargill the great media communicator is refusing interviews on the Strike, etc, I wonder why,
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Well considering he lost .I really cant see him going on Tv to have some young journolist gloat at him.Got my news from the daily mail in those days
so he was the devil incarnate :o:).
I was a school boy down South so the strike didnt effect me in the slightist .
 
'I was a school boy down South so the strike didnt effect me in the slightist . '

Yeah it only shaped the society you've been living in ever since. Nothing important.

Thatcher was once asked what her legacy was. Apparently she smiled and said 'New labour'.
 
treelover said:
Apparently, Scargill the great media communicator is refusing interviews on the Strike, etc, I wonder why,
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Come on brother you of all people should understand saying such bullshit is not on, there are good resons why he might not speak as well you know, sometimes you do talk shit, though i still love ya and respect you.
 
Reading this thread has brought lots of emotions back. We had miners stay over in our East End flat during the strike. I remember collecting cash etc with elderly poor pensioners donating for the strike fund.

It was a historic event and the effects of losing the strike hit the rest of the labour movement hard. Started to re-read Digging Deeper by Huw Benyon an for those who have doubts over this period - read The Enemy Within by Seamus Milne. The Miners Strike for many was seeing a real class war with just how far the State was used by Thatcher.

We will not forget these times.
 
Arthur Scargill gives his first full account of the miners' strike in Saturday's Guardian. Was the former NUM leader a working-class hero, or a deluded individual who led his members on a doomed and costly mission?
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Damn, i was going to buy the indie, cos of the free Mongrel CD
 
...and despite all that the Guardian still come down on the wrong side in their editorial comment: A war no one deserved to win

What a suprise.
 
butchersapron said:
...and despite all that the Guardian still come down on the wrong side in their editorial comment: A war no one deserved to win
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From that editorial:

"Public opinion never wavered in opposition to the strike and its tactics, but the public's heart bled for the miners and their families. That is why the strike was such a searing and conflicted experience for so many who lived through those times."

Could any two sentences capture rank bleeding heart liberal hypocrisy any better?
 
Jeff Robinson said:
From that editorial:

"Public opinion never wavered in opposition to the strike and its tactics, but the public's heart bled for the miners and their families. That is why the strike was such a searing and conflicted experience for so many who lived through those times."

Could any two sentences capture rank bleeding heart liberal hypocrisy any better?
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They chose that wording very carefully - they used that exact same term in September 1984 at the heart of the strike, and in a piece in which they recognised that the strike was "since the very beginning, a political fight to the finish." i.e you had to choose one side or another. And they chose.
 
butchersapron said:
They chose that wording very carefully - they used that exact same term in September 1984 at the heart of the strike, and in a piece in which they recognised that the strike was "since the very beginning, a political fight to the finish." i.e you had to choose one side or another. And they chose.
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And typically for liberal handwringers they chose by not choosing.
 
an interesting read, show clearly the lie put about to this day by the right, and many pseudo-lefties, that the miners 'could never win'
 
mutley said:
'I was a school boy down South so the strike didnt effect me in the slightist . '

Yeah it only shaped the society you've been living in ever since. Nothing important.

Thatcher was once asked what her legacy was. Apparently she smiled and said 'New labour'.
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The southerner who wrote that didn't notice the coalfields in Kent, who were dead solid throughout the strike...unlike those UDM scabs in Notts.
 
Jeff Robinson said:
From that editorial:

"Public opinion never wavered in opposition to the strike and its tactics, but the public's heart bled for the miners and their families. That is why the strike was such a searing and conflicted experience for so many who lived through those times."

Could any two sentences capture rank bleeding heart liberal hypocrisy any better?
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Where the hell was the writer living? On Mars?
 
Dopermine said:
Great to see Ken Loach humiliating Lawson on Newsnight over the miners. Patronising tory bastard. Brings back so many painful memories, one of the great conspiracies against ordinary people and look where it has all led - to disaster

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
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Aye, Lawson was trotting out the usual clichés about how he "felt for the miners", while adding the proviso-word "but". He's a cockroach, pure and simple.
 
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