Toby Young is a c0nt

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Blagsta, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    Does he have has father issues?

    The rise of eugenics again was inevitable, given the demonisation of the poor, moving back to 19th C economic ideas, etc, Lombruso will be next, measuring cranials?
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  2. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    He quite fancies himself as a serious intellectual but ends up looking like: a) a reactionary and b) an idiot.
  3. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Probably. His old man was given a peerage by Harold Wilson iirc.
  4. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member


    changed Ricardo to Lombroso in my first post.
  5. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    It's sad that despite being his father's son, he doesn't understand the work the man did. :facepalm:

    It's also pretty loathsome that he dares use his father's work as a springboard for such badly-reasoned cock. He also doesn't appear to understand even von Hayek as the man explained his own theories, and does his usual trick of selective citation.

    What a complete and utter whale turd.
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  6. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    "Looking like"? :D
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  7. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

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  8. NoXion

    NoXion Eat leaden death, demon...

    Genetic tweaking isn't going to count for much if children are still being malnourished and poorly socialised because of the effects of deprivation and (deliberate, ongoing) infrastructural neglect.
  9. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Sometimes I think he's trolling us and then I remember he isn't smart enough to even be a poor quality troll. :D
  10. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    The citations are there to lend an academic gloss. It's a case of "people will think my argument is watertight if I include citations", regardless of whether the sources are questionable, weak or barely skim read/understood.

    And he's running a free school. :eek:
  11. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Got a Tony from Oxbridge, so he's in good blagger company, I suppose!
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  12. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Remember: Tobes is a 'classical liberal' and he digs eugenics.

    Then there's this.

    It's not just the 'liberal left' that thinks the whole thing stinks, Tobes. "Their faces when Labour implodes in 2020". Don't give up the, er, day job you helmet-headed c0nt.
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  13. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    Who are all these African socialist leaders?
  14. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    That's what I was wondering. :D
  15. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    Obama, maybe? ;)
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  16. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Tobes is a fan of Charles Murray. If he's into him, then he's probably a birther too. ;)
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  17. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    (edit - beaten to it)
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  18. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    I cannot bring myself to listen to this but even the description turns my stomach.

    The Spectator podcast: Eugenics, Tory wars and poetry | Coffee House

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  19. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Laughable. This presupposes that the rich, by virtue of their vast wealth and access to the best schools, are automatically more intelligent. Then I look at the government front bench and laugh my head off.
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  20. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    If slap-head knew what he was talking about, he'd realise that natural selection operates upon the poor much more readily, and that the fact that in comparable circumstances we do better than scum like him is proof that we don't need eugenic improvements, just equity of outcome and the death of the old school tie.
  21. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    So , Young quits - feeble w*nker ( obviously trying to bury it today)

    Toby Young: running free school was harder than I thought Toby Young: running free school was harder than I thought

    Maybe Julie Burchills got a bit of spare time on her hands, and they cld try + get the band back together - snarky Spec hack pieces aren't going to keep the education budget rinser in £2m West Lndon homes for long .
  22. Nylock

    Nylock I hate 'these days'...

    ...What a despicable cunt. That very arrogance and the very public expressions of it helped to embolden the likes of Gove et al to go ahead with the whole free school fuckery by syphoning millions of pounds of dfe money to other smug, entitled wankers who thought they could do a better job of it than the local schools who needed the funding. :mad:

    First against the wall? He wouldn't even make it that far...
  23. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    It's been on Facebook for a day or two, and it's a reasonable article, written by a former teacher who is now a journalist. He also admits he's stepping down from being the chief executive of the free school soon, and that his idea to have 25 free schools isn't going to happen.
  24. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    its the conservative arrogance that demands they know better than teachers, that the curiculum is a leftish plot and pupils are an untapped market. You know how they hate those.
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  25. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    The original article is on the schoolsweek site, and includes Young apologising for dismissing teachers' workload issues, too.

    I still think he's completely wrong about his philosophy re:education, but I am pleased that he's come out and said he was wrong about some significant stuff.
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  26. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    You've lost me , who's a ' former teacher ' ?
  27. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    The person who wrote the recent Tobg Young interview.
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  28. gosub

    gosub ~#

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    cantsin Well-Known Member

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    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

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