To Cane or Not To Cane

[badco]

That is the question....

Saw an interesting bit on the One show just now and it was discussing this subject wether to cane kids in school...

Whats everyone's opinion on this?

Vote BNP and capital punishment will be brought back!!

 

[newme]

Violence = Bad, unless its self defence.
Caning = Not even close to being self defence.

 

[High Voltage]

The threat of caning, especially like that in the example linked to earlier would be, certainly for me, enough to make me think bloody long and hard about doing ANYTHING that could put in line for it.

To the extent that I would seriously NOT go to a country that had such punishments. Not from a human rights issue, but from a "What would happen if I were mistakenly arrested and that could happen to me" point of view.

And yes, the human rights issue is also important, but hey, I'm initially selfish.

Then you get past the threat and you actually have to cane someone. Let's be honest, the caning you'd get in this country would not be like the one in the example linked to.

So, then the cane has been administered. Where do you go from there?

Cane them again. That didn't work, obviously, they're back again.
Double it?
Make it more severe?
Where does it stop?

As with most punishments, it's the threat of getting caught that keeps most on the straight and narrow, and that's what, I feel, keeps "society" going. That most of us conform and it is, bye and large "fear" of getting caught that does that.

Take that fear away and where do we end up?

There will always be those who, rightly or wrongly end up being punished and then the fear of getting caught is taken away.

You'll never put the fear back into them, that genie is well and truly out of the bottle. So what do you do?

Wish I had the answer, but I really don't all I know is that caning is not an answer is the start of a much bigger problem.

And Yes, parents should be allowed to slap their children.

 

[indie]

Caning just An excuse for bad teaching ability.

 

[spanglechick]

Whilst caning was clearly wrong and those who administered it worthy of further investigation, the modern alternative is in many cases more harmful.

As the naughty schoolkid, what would you rather as a punishment:

Six of the best, and on your way back to class with sore hand or arse.

Or

Exclusion; either a number of weeks of lost education, or permanant - which leads to a number of weeks/months of lost education, then having to start again in a new school, where you know no one.

I was expelled and had to start again at a new school in a new area. Many of your mates at your old school drift away (bit like when you leave work) and you have to start again 1/2 through everyone else's schooling, when friendships have already been formed. It's not easy. I think I'd rather have been caned.

which leads you to think - caning doesn't even work as a deterrant as well as exclusion does.

 

[D]

i enjoy the odd website where it's positively encouraged, but not for kids

 

[catinthehat]

When I was at school physical punishments were the norm both in school and at home. On the whole less disturbing to me than having the "serious talk" with my Dad.

Cane ? No. Wrong - and I would like to think that you would be very hard pressed to find any teacher that would support such a thing. Although I do think it is perfectly legitimate to place electrods on the genitals of the little sods that habitually draw cocks on MY whiteboard.