Time For A Tom Waits Thread..

[Dubversion]

Oh, and I didn't say he was a millionaire when he wrote Martha either.

No, you didn't, not exactly, although the context - and any awareness of what part of his career involved the whole 'hobo' image - would suggest that was what you were implying. Of course, you'll be able to deny that and nobody can ever prove otherwise

 

[Brockway]

Name me an act that isn't precisely that - ie, an act? It's all show business

Crispin Lightbulb and the Forestry Commission.

I like TW's shtick. It would be crap if the music was bad but the music is often great.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Hash browns hash browns you know I can't be late.

 

[Brockway]

No, you didn't, not exactly, although the context - and any awareness of what part of his career involved the whole 'hobo' image - would suggest that was what you were implying. Of course, you'll be able to deny that and nobody can ever prove otherwise

Oh dear... Please remove that cucumber from your arse fella.

And by "broken home" do you mean his mum and did split up?

 

[Dubversion]

Oh dear... Please remove that cucumber from your arse fella.

EH?

And by "broken home" do you mean his mum and did split up?

what else does it mean?

 

[Brockway]

EH?



what else does it mean?

You said he came from a broken home in response to my saying he was posh. That doesn't make any sense to me. What does your parents splitting up have to do with wealth and class?

 

[Dubversion]

You said he came from a broken home in response to my saying he was posh. That doesn't make any sense to me. What does your parents splitting up have to do with wealth and class?

Nothing, but you were painting a picture of some posh kid from a safe, secure background and that's not the case. Divorced parents and wealth / class aren't related but both affect the shape of your life.

 

[Brockway]

Nothing, but you were painting a picture of some posh kid from a safe, secure background and that's not the case. Divorced parents and wealth / class aren't related but both affect the shape of your life.

Hang on, you're doing it again - making stuff up: "you were painting a picture of some posh kid from a safe, secure background". Erm, where exactly did I mention his safe and secure background? I've no idea how safe or secure his background is.

 

[Dubversion]

oh whatever, brockway. Life's too short to play word games with you. haven't you got some absurd generalisations and lecherous asides to make on the Amy Winehouse thread, anyway?

 

[Brockway]

ooooooooooooh

Hey Dubversion - shouldn't you be indulging your watersports fantasies on the Amy Whinehouse thread?

 

[Dubversion]

ooooooooooooh

Hey Dubversion - shouldn't you be indulging your watersports fantasies on the Amy Whinehouse thread?

Which watersports fantasies are they, brockway? You wouldn't happen to be talking out of your arse again, would you?

 

[Brockway]

Which watersports fantasies are they, brockway? You wouldn't happen to be talking out of your arse again, would you?

Don't get upset mate. The one where you're talking about her pissing on the pavement.

 

[Idaho]

the Forestry Commission.

While they do an important job in managing the nation's timber stock, I don't think they have much to offer in the way of insight into class relations and character mythology in the entertainment industry.

 

[Idaho]

His mum and dad were teachers, that makes him middle-class, which is posh to me. Depends where you're from I suppose. Maybe you're middle-class in which case he wouldn't be posh to you.

I am middle class and I think he is a frightful oik.

 

[Dubversion]

Don't get upset mate. The one where you're talking about her pissing on the pavement.

Ah, right. Yeh.

 

[chazegee]

he was okay in short cuts

 

[BEARBOT]

ive been a big fan for ages..might splash out on that interviews book,its not HARDCOVER is it?
really lookin forward to reading it,prolly cant afford now,something to look forward to tho

...i know tom had BIG problems with booze and a lot of people around him in the 80s were junkies/alkies...as far as his family background well back when he was a kid divorce wasnt accepted at all..it was stigmatised,really looked down on.doesnt matter if you label his family background "average/modest" "lower middle class" or "middle class" ..cos im willing to bet my life his family didnt support/fund his lifestyle.

i beleive he is a true outsider artist who somehow became famous,he knows about the life he writes about and is a great observer of life.what more do you want?

 

[bruise]

His career is so episodic, and people get stuck with one version of him - the 70s barfly balladeer, the 80s midget-and-fairground-and-hobo clanky version, the 90s arty, dark, theatrical version.

i sort of liked the first and loved the middle - but got stuck there

any suggested albums for the 90s arty theatrical version?

 

[Dubversion]

Black Rider is quite tough going, i guess. he's kinda into a new phase now, with Mule Variations and Real Gone. it's kind of everyTom, and like all the best bits of his previous phases..

 

[The Groke]

I erm "acquired" Orphans last night (well it's not like it will be released here any time soon) and gave it a quick run through.......well as quickly as it is possible to run through 50 tracks!

Sounds pretty promising so far, and it is really good for the relative Waits-Newcomer (i.e me!) to have all of his previous styles represented and grouped together across the three disks.

"Army Ants" stands out for me for some reason at this point!

 

[izz]

I love Tom Waits - oh oh oh oh oh oh and we have the same birthday !