Three Girls

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by sojourner, May 17, 2017.

  1. sojourner

    sojourner Where's me readers?

    It's in three parts too
     
  2. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Lots of the women that come to see us come as a result of a news item or show. After Murdered By My Boyfriend aired the national helpline saw a 30% increase in calls over the following days and weeks.
     
  3. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    Well-written drama does have the power to change things in society - Ken Loach will tell you that as much as any man
     
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  4. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    Yesterday, tonight and tomorrow...
     
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  5. moomoo

    moomoo Not so yummy mummy

    That still gives me the shivers just thinking about it.
     
  6. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    He'd probably tell you it more than any man, to be honest
     
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  7. trashpony

    trashpony Ovaries and tings

    Liking your post seems wrong but I'm so glad it persuaded more women to seek help
     
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  8. sojourner

    sojourner Where's me readers?

    And that's it, that's the point Gromit is missing. It will never ever 'warn off' or 'scare' youngsters. What it can do however is reach out to those who are actually experiencing it. To bring it down to 'rubbernecking' is itself a bit obscene imo.

    Great point re Ken Loach :cool:
     
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  9. moomoo

    moomoo Not so yummy mummy

    Just watched it. Bloody hell. :(
     
  10. moomoo

    moomoo Not so yummy mummy

    I had a referral recently for a 15 year old Asian girl. Her parents were very strict and home life was hard. She met a (allegedly) 17 year old boy on the Internet and he sent an über from Manchester to Birmingham to fetch her. She had a weekend up there having a fine old time staying in a fancy hotel, being bought lovely meals and a very expensive bracelet and then he introduced her to his 'dad' who paid for an uber back to Birmingham again.

    Grooming much? My SW and I have never rolled our eyes so much as when her SW was telling us this. In the end the court sent her back to live with her parents. It wouldn't surprise me if she ends up here (or in another foster home) sooner or later.

    All these people need to do is to find a vulnerable girl who isn't happy at home, buy them a few gifts, show them a bit of love because that's what they are craving and bingo!

    purenarcotic, Bourneville college is apparently now a hotbed for it. Easy access on the train from Birmingham see?
     
  11. sojourner

    sojourner Where's me readers?

    Absolutely this. I was in very similar situations myself as a teenager, just lucky they weren't organised gangs.
     
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  12. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    I didn't know that but that's interesting, will share round work. Apparently Star City is popular for transferring girls between different gangs as it's on the motorway and stuff. It's vile.
     
  13. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    It helps remove the isolation innit. Abuse victims often feel it's only them, this stuff says 'you're not the only one! We know! Lots of us know it happens!'
     
  14. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    Right down to hanging around with the (Turkish in our case) chip shop owners... It freaked me out a bit watching it tbh.

    Fortunately we just messed around and ate chips.
     
  15. kittyP

    kittyP schmeeer

    Just watched the first two episodes.
    Jeeze the first was grim but absolutely essential that this story is being told in another manner than just police/news reports.
    It puts a face on it. Makes it real. Makes it easier to see how this can happen to these poor young girls. And hopefully makes it easier to stop in the future.
     
  16. kittyP

    kittyP schmeeer

    Yes, chills went down my spine for my younger self too.
     
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  17. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    It's weird knowing facts about something but then seeing it dramatised, I already knew what happened to the sexual health worker but I'm raging about it again.

    We live in a miserable fucked up world.
     
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  18. kittyP

    kittyP schmeeer

    Innit!

    Even though some justice was done, the last episode left me in pieces about how much still is wrong and deeply unfair.
     
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  19. trashpony

    trashpony Ovaries and tings

    Really felt like a hollow victory. Amber was totally shafted and never got her justice
     
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  20. moomoo

    moomoo Not so yummy mummy

    Yep.
     
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  21. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    Knowing how much of it was from transcripts... The yawning copper in that awful first interview Holly gave about her initial rape. The weird as fuck defence barrister who started of by telling her how pretty she was. Just appalling disrespect from every direction.
     
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  22. moomoo

    moomoo Not so yummy mummy

    I think I'm going to watch it again.
     
  23. Poot

    Poot Everyone's a superhero, everyone's a Captain Kirk

    It was awful the way that the authorities seemed to expect the girls to just know things. Like they were supposed to have been suspicious about all the free stuff. And they were supposed to be able to work out that the alcohol made them vulnerable. I think it should be shown at schools. I mean, obviously it shouldn't have to be - the children were completely blameless - but they should probably know when shit is likely to go wrong.

    They'll never recover, those girls. I hope that some small good thing comes of it and others feel able to speak out.
     
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  24. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    It's very harrowing to show in schools, there isn't a lot of evidence that terrifying young people really works effectively and it is pretty terrifying viewing. The focus of the show is on the professional failings, not really a great angle to show vulnerable kids 'report this and nobody will believe you and you'll be treated like shit' - I mean it's still true to an extent but not the route you want to go down.

    Corrie are running a CSE storyline which is being done excellently and they're going to produce a DVD for use in schools. It focusses in much more detail on the minutiae of how grooming happens as it's taken place over months so there's much more scope to break it down and have useful discussions.
     
  25. keithy

    keithy or queefy

    There will be a lot of people out there watching things like this and having a few things click in their mind. Maybe a victim realising it is wrong for the first time. Maybe a parent realising that there may be more to the story than they thought. That is important.

    Grooming, abuse, rape, incitement, are all real things happening to real people and drama is such a well established way to tell these stories and help people process it.
     
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  26. keithy

    keithy or queefy

    The corrie one also being criticised now the police are involved and in on it.
     
  27. girasol

    girasol visual spaceship pilot

    I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it but through the news I noticed what an impact it had. It can only be a good thing.
     
  28. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    I've only just got round to watching part one. I've gone through anger, sorrow, disgust, and back to frustrated anger.

    I'll watch part two later, maybe part three too.

    IIRC wasn't there, very recently, a report which backed up the "fact" that Asian men are more likely to be child abusers?
     
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  29. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    Part 2. I so wish that this was fiction. But, of course, it isn't. That the girls should have been punished so much for being the victims. There's so many who should be at the very least ashamed of themselves. The system failed these girls repeatedly.

    To part three.
     
  30. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    That takes some watching.

    If you've not seen it, watch it.
     
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