Thom Yorke: Cymbal Rush

[Dubversion]

I haven't taken issue with you not liking the song, neither have I "jumped all over you" in this thread.

You have taken issue with me not liking it - that guff about prog rock, and that bigger guff about 'some people liking it being enough'. As for jumping over me, that's a more general point

I've simply taken issue with you dismissing the song for not being 'professional' enough for your presumably demanding tastes

so by implication, you have 'undemanding' tastes. Is that a good thing?

If you don't like the song - fine. Feel free to pop up on my enthusitic thread within minutes to tell me if you must. You've certainly done that enough times in the past.

As have you, editor, as have you. It's the double-standard that's annoying me. You do it as much as I do. Let's see how long it would take for you to pop up on a Chumbawamba or Cardiacs thread? But would I get irked by it? No..

But all this stuff about the song not being "done "properly" or being "unsophisticated" just smacks of music snobbery to my ears.

It's not snobbery, it's just my opinion. I think it's a lame copy of a much more interesting genre.

But sorry for daring to disagree

 

[kakuma]

poor thom will cry himself to sleep

 

[Dubversion]

But I still reckon they're one of the best bands on the planet and I still like Thom Yorke's new single!

And i don't - an opinion which, unless the rules have changed, I have as much right to post as you.

Etc.

 

[bluestreak]

hee hee, if this was my board i'd craftily change the FAQ right now.

 

[kakuma]

i don't reckon it's a copy cos the songs i've heard have been based around thom yorke singing and playing the piano. he has been inspired by that lo-fi stuff, but it isn't an imitation, it's just cos he is making the sounds that he likes to accompany his songs. shit, by that rationale everything is a copy of everything

 

[Firky]

Quite possibly.

But I still reckon they're one of the best bands on the planet and I still like Thom Yorke's new single!

I Promise never to troll U75 again.

 

[editor]

It's the double-standard that's annoying me. You do it as much as I do. Let's see how long it would take for you to pop up on a Chumbawamba or Cardiacs thread? But would I get irked by it?

It's your weird selective recall that's annoying me.

Almost every time anyone dares say a good word about Radiohead, up pops Dub to pour scorn and derision!

"Radiohead's 1997 Glastonbury voted best ever!" says the thread title.
I was "driven away by the tedium" adds Dub a few posts into the thread.

"Thom Yorke Appreciation" enthuses a new thread, only to have Dub slap him down with the very next post!
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=157503&

"Radiohead / Scanner Darkly / Thom Yorke Solo Album" says akirajoel
But Dub is right in there by post four agreeing that he "Couldn't give a toss about Radiohead"
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=155525

And more and more...
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146818

Maybe we should make that a new competition. Can anyone find a thread about Radiohead that Dub hasn't turned up to moan on?!!

You do it as much as I do. Let's see how long it would take for you to pop up on a Chumbawamba or Cardiacs thread?

And that is provable bollocks as a quick peruse with the 'search' function will testify beyond all doubt!

 

[Dubversion]

oh fuck off, i have NOWHERE said that i'm not critical. Point well missed (deliberately).

The thing is that I can take it as well as dish it out. I don't think you can.

i gave a very thoughtful and calm appraisal of the album, and explained why i didn't like it. Surely entirely reasonable?

But no - because you like it, it's bad form apparently. SO fuck it then, I'll leave it.

Hypocrite

 

[Firky]

i don't reckon it's a copy cos the songs i've heard have been based around thom yorke singing and playing the piano. he has been inspired by that lo-fi stuff, but it isn't an imitation, it's just cos he is making the sounds that he likes to accompany his songs. shit, by that rationale everything is a copy of everything

Some lo-fi IDM does sound very much of a likeness though, you only need to listen to some of the stuff on the Warp label to hear it.

Radiohead and Thom have now ditched EMI (they had a six LP contract drawn up after Pablo Honey) and are now on XXL (same as White Stripes), however... I know Mel from w.a.s.t.e (the guy that got me to interview them) and he hinted a year or two ago that they may do their own label and encourage new bands with 'new sounds'. They've done quite a bit for bands in their native Oxford, the Rock of Travolta and a few other acts supported them at the Southpark Gig... where they played Creep for the first time in fice years, and 40,000 people went mental

 

[editor]

The thing is that I can take it as well as dish it out. I don't think you can. Hypcrite

Examples, if you please, squire, because I'm getting a little bit fed up with your endless 'hypocrite' personal attacks now.

 

[Dubversion]

I'M making personal attacks?

 

[dirtysanta]

Southpark Gig... where they played Creep for the first time in fice years, and 40,000 people went mental

i was at that. Fucking amazing.

 

[Firky]

But no - because you like it, it's bad form apparently. SO fuck it then, I'll leave it.

Hypocrite

Haway man, calm down! Music has always been a heated debate and I love a good argument about it

 

[Iam]

Oh come on.

Surely if you're going to have gushing fanboy threads, you should expect people who disagree with you to say so.

 

[Firky]

i was at that. Fucking amazing.

One of the best gigs I have ever been too, "RAIN DOWN... RAIN DOWN ON ME" and it was pissing it down but I was still happy

 

[Dubversion]

My Original Post Quoted In Full So People Can See How Fucking Reasonable I Was Being

must just be me, but i found it totally unremarkable. I did give it a fair listen - i do have time for them as people and always want to like their new stuff, even if i rarely do - but it just struck me as pretty 'meh'.

The two elements - Yorke's voice and the glitchy music - just don't gel. It's like when Paul Simon does world music - he sings one of his songs over an African backing, without the two ever really feeling inextricably connected.

The Cymbal Rush single is OK - but only OK. There's just nothing here i can get excited about. The backing sounds like fairly unprofessional IDM to me.

and with that...

 

[editor]

I'M making personal attacks?

You've called me a 'hypocrite' three or four times already in this thread while failing spectacularly to substantiate that slur.

And that's not very nice, especially as you've yet to post up a single example.

 

[Firky]

poor dubversion
poor editor

Radiohead are the best rock act of the last 20 years. IMHO of course

 

[sleaterkinney]

Would you say you are big fan of radiohead then riot_sky?

 

[editor]

Surely if you're going to have gushing fanboy threads, you should expect people who disagree with you to say so.

I'm happy to join in the musical fisticuffs and have people disagree with me, but it's a bit off to find it suddenly going all personal and being labelled a 'hypocrite' when the accuser can't actually deliver any examples, no?

 

[sleaterkinney]

One of the best gigs I have ever been too, "RAIN DOWN... RAIN DOWN ON ME" and it was pissing it down but I was still happy

Creep is one of their worst songs ever. Mawkish, histronic, self-piting, I know people who never got into Radiohead because of it.

 

[Firky]

Would you say you are big fan of radiohead then riot_sky?

Just a bit

I did some of their website, I used to run a website with no adverts, only donations... U75 styleee, as big as www.greenplastic.com and when my host tried to shut me down for copyright violation (hosting their lyrics), Radiohead sent them an angry email saying I could host their songs and any MP3s of theirs I wanted

They don't give a shit if you download their music. They've made their money and will continue to do so off OK Computer for the rest of their lives, so don't mind people downloading MP3s. They are after all very nologo and down with the man

Yes, I like Radiohead.

 

[Firky]

Creep is one of their worst songs ever. Mawkish, histronic, self-piting, I know people who never got into Radiohead because of it.

Yup! I Liked it when I first heard it in 1993, but I find it too teenage and angsty, but they were teenage and angsty when it was written. Their music has matured as they have, and so have I

 

[Iam]

I'm happy to join in the musical fisticuffs and have people disagree with me, but it's a bit off to find it suddenly going all personal and being labelled a 'hypocrite' when the accuser can't actually deliver any examples, no?

Oh, I can't imagine anything worse, personally.

------

I once got called an idiot by a Radiohead fanboy (on another forum) because I refused to accept that the result of the (rigged) channel 4 best album poll must actually mean that "OK Computer is the best album ever".

What are you gonna do, eh? I suspect that Dub calling you a hypocrite doesn't actually make it so, just like I'm not an idiot specifically cos that guy called me one (although I'm not denying there may be other reasons).

People react about music. It happens. I try not let it bother me.

[/pointless waffle]

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Radiohead are to the '90s and '00s what The Smiths were to the '80s and The Beatles were to the '60s.

For the '70s, see a hybrid of Pink Floyd and The Clash for the closest comparison.

Pretty fucking special then.

 

[Firky]

Radiohead are to the '90s and '00s what The Smiths were to the '80s and The Beatles were to the '60s.

For the '70s, see a hybrid of Pink Floyd and The Clash for the closest comparison.

Pretty fucking special then.

word.

they can release an album with no advertising or singles and it still goes to number 1 in 72 different countries (kid a). that is something pretty fucking special alright

 

[Iam]

See?

Gush, gush.

*vomit*

 

[Firky]

See?

Gush, gush.

*vomit*

Fuck off you Harry Potterist

 

[Iam]

Magic.

 

[Firky]

That is debby mcgee, fewl