This really is Irans "happy time" the bastards.
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nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Greebozz said:
Like slaar said, you need to do some reading. Though it is obvious that you won't. I guess Janet and John books are more your speed.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Greebozz said:
You're an ignorant, bigoted thick twat. So why should I care? Funny that, I accuse you of being an "armchair warrior" and a coward and, because you lack any real thoughts of your own, you copy me, like a true bonehead.
Not true. America is seen as a far-off evil with regional aspirations. Al Qaeda are at the forefront of an expansionist Sunni extremism which wants to take Persian lands. You do know that Iran is largely Shia, and Al Qaeda exclusively Sunni don't you?Greebozz said:
Your generalisations about posters are really stupid, and also inaccurate. I want the best for Britain, and the rest of the world, I just don't think that is served by our military invading and attacking countries half the world away without very good reason indeed. That reason was not present for Iraq. and is not for Iran. This from the dangerously left wing and renowned dove The Economist (latest edition):
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8668903
Do you know any Iranians? Have you been there? Do you have any idea of the diversity of the place? Your ignorance is staggering.
You also presumably know that Iran offered to help the overthrow of the Taliban, and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, but were rebuffed by Cheney who wanted to go it alone, presumably for reaons of oil and because he believed the neocon wet dream that Iraq would mutate into some form of Middle Eastern Sweden, spontaneously and without much effort on the part of the US once the Baathists were gone?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
moono said:nino_savatte;
Hey, I'd forgotten about those. They might be revisited, you know, from the Senior Citizen angle. Might raise some squids for the cause.
They were great...if you were 5 or 6 years old. I've got some old Ladybird books that I found in my parent's house after they died. I don't know how much they're worth.
nino_savatte
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Greebozz said:
You really are a most tedious little bantam rooster, aren't you? Puffing your chest out and talking big, all from the safety of your seaside home.
I don't "hate my country". In fact, unlike armchair warriors such as yourself, I've actually put my money where my mouth was and undertaken military service, as has at least one other poster on this thread.
So to be told by a big-mouthed splenetic coward that I am "consumed by self hatred for my own country" merely makes my lip curl in derision of the sort of "patriot" you represent; the chickenhawk, the back-room general who knows little and understands less.
Your ilk repulse me almost as thoroughly as do the politicians that gamble with all our lives so freely. If you were stood in front of me I wouldn't waste my spit on you, let alone a bullet.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Greebozz said:
Iranians are for the most part Shia.
Al Q are Wahhabite and mostly Sunni.
Wahhabites preach the death of apostates.
To the Wahhabi an apostate is anyone who doesn't support exactly the same ideals as they do. That means that if you happen to be Shia, Sufi or a member of any other sect or religion, then you're beyond the pale.
If they can't convert you through re-education they'll convert you with the sword. Through your heart,
If you're fool enough to believe that Iran has serious links with al Q then you're not only politically naive, but you also understand the very nature of politics itself.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Greebozz said:
A fine use of words, but I doubt that you understand the concept of honour well enough to remark on whether other people possess it or not.
Violent Panda, to be honest I don't fully understand the subtleties between the two branches of Islam, your summing up of conflict between the two I found a helpful.
I don't quite get, this groove you are in about doing my bit for my country, and joining the army. I'm not quite sure if you are just insulting me or are throwing down some kind of genuine challenge to put my money where my mouth is. I tend to think, "each according to their needs, each according to their ability". I am putting myself on the line right here right now, I am writing on this forum entirely following my conscience.
I don't quite get, this groove you are in about doing my bit for my country, and joining the army. I'm not quite sure if you are just insulting me or are throwing down some kind of genuine challenge to put my money where my mouth is. I tend to think, "each according to their needs, each according to their ability". I am putting myself on the line right here right now, I am writing on this forum entirely following my conscience.
Option 1: Face bullets and pipe bombs in Basra and Helmand.Greebozz said:
Option 2: Write ill-informed and knee-jerk postings on an anonymous bulletin board, complaining that everyone on said board is either an enemy or a traitor.
The least you could do is not insult people, and accept their might be slightly more subtlety to the events surrounding Iran than "big evil country full of muslim crazies wants to give a nuke to Al Qaeda, so we have to get them".
Fez909
toilet expert
Greebozz: You might find this BBC article helpful in understanding a little more about what is going on link.
The article seems to cover a lot of viewpoints and is pretty neutral. Have a read of it and I'm sure it'll change your mind on a few things you've mentioned here, should you believe it, of course.
The article seems to cover a lot of viewpoints and is pretty neutral. Have a read of it and I'm sure it'll change your mind on a few things you've mentioned here, should you believe it, of course.
slaar said:
The people in Iraqi and Afghanistan are too stupid to be helped, they are basically vengeful tribalistic goat hearders, who have contributed nothing to the world apart from inventing the number zero and saving us all from the stone age because it, apparently. But apart from the fluke of having oil, what has Iran, Iraqi and Saudi Arabia given to the world? What have a achieved? What have they ever invented that has helped humanity.
Just think of all the medical advances and life saving technology that has come from the West. Your arrogance is unbelievable. Our biggest mistake in Iraqi was thinking too highly of the people there, it did not occurred to us that they were murdering savages who would gladly cut-off there nose despite their face.
So sod them basically, let's pull out and let the stupid bastards kill each other.
And another thing, I don't like it when people defend Iran after they had been implicated in the killing of British troops, and I will bloody well say so if it's all the same to you.
Saalam
Greebozz:
Your an ignorant racist fool, the type of fool that this corrupt regime of ours depnds upon to keep itself in power.
There have been many bomb attacks in Iran, allegedly by sepratist groups from Arabistan (a province in Iran in the far south-west) and in Iranian Kurdistan. Many have speculated that these attacks are special op actions done by the British and the Americans and to be honest it would make sense.
Given that the Americans are now gearing up to attack Iran and given that the British government and it's pathetic army is nothing but a tool for the US imperialists, the Iranians have every right to see Britain as an enemy.
Should Britain and America ever attack Iran, then I would support Iran in such a war and I would smile every time a dumb US or UK soldier is shoot dead or blown up, they choose to join a army that is in the business of killing innocent civilians and they choose to serve their corrupt masters in the White House and Westminster, so if they die, though shit they deserve it.
As for your ignorant claims on Western culture vs. other cultures, the middle east was scientifically advanced and socially advanced in the middle ages, when most British people, apart form the aristocracy, were living in mud huts and scientists were burnt at the stakes by the church for 'heresy'.
The West had done many wonderful things, but not lately.
Gone are the days of Goethe, Plato, Aristotle, Marx, Adam Smith, Mozart, Monet, Picasso etc....
Gone are the days of high culture, open intellectual debate and advancement.
All the West is now is crass consumerism, drug use, binge drinking, mindless TV, celebrity 'culture', sub-standard music and the worship of money and greed.
I would never defend this sad state of affairs and eagerly await it's downfall.
And don't even dare talk of 'traitors' within from humiliating Britain, our government has done that job perfectly by getting Britian on it's knees to suck American cock!
If your feel so much for our decadent and corrupt Western society and the global domination of America over this world, go and join the army and go to Iraq, as I would only hope and wish for your speedy death at the hands of a insurgent attack, that way cunts like you will slowly die out from the populace.
Your an ignorant racist fool, the type of fool that this corrupt regime of ours depnds upon to keep itself in power.
There have been many bomb attacks in Iran, allegedly by sepratist groups from Arabistan (a province in Iran in the far south-west) and in Iranian Kurdistan. Many have speculated that these attacks are special op actions done by the British and the Americans and to be honest it would make sense.
Given that the Americans are now gearing up to attack Iran and given that the British government and it's pathetic army is nothing but a tool for the US imperialists, the Iranians have every right to see Britain as an enemy.
Should Britain and America ever attack Iran, then I would support Iran in such a war and I would smile every time a dumb US or UK soldier is shoot dead or blown up, they choose to join a army that is in the business of killing innocent civilians and they choose to serve their corrupt masters in the White House and Westminster, so if they die, though shit they deserve it.
As for your ignorant claims on Western culture vs. other cultures, the middle east was scientifically advanced and socially advanced in the middle ages, when most British people, apart form the aristocracy, were living in mud huts and scientists were burnt at the stakes by the church for 'heresy'.
The West had done many wonderful things, but not lately.
Gone are the days of Goethe, Plato, Aristotle, Marx, Adam Smith, Mozart, Monet, Picasso etc....
Gone are the days of high culture, open intellectual debate and advancement.
All the West is now is crass consumerism, drug use, binge drinking, mindless TV, celebrity 'culture', sub-standard music and the worship of money and greed.
I would never defend this sad state of affairs and eagerly await it's downfall.
And don't even dare talk of 'traitors' within from humiliating Britain, our government has done that job perfectly by getting Britian on it's knees to suck American cock!
If your feel so much for our decadent and corrupt Western society and the global domination of America over this world, go and join the army and go to Iraq, as I would only hope and wish for your speedy death at the hands of a insurgent attack, that way cunts like you will slowly die out from the populace.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
plato you are a not really helping are you? greebozz is an idiot
All the West is now is crass consumerism, drug use, binge drinking, mindless TV, celebrity 'culture', sub-standard music and the worship of money and greed. I belive plato or one oh his mats had the equilents whine so its part ofthehuman condition
not really but still beats repression and worshipping a book
All the West is now is crass consumerism, drug use, binge drinking, mindless TV, celebrity 'culture', sub-standard music and the worship of money and greed. I belive plato or one oh his mats had the equilents whine so its part ofthehuman condition
not really but still beats repression and worshipping a book
Like that bothers me.
If you actually had a single brain cell in your head, then I would go into how the "Iran supplying the insurgents with weapons" line is a lie made by the US.
The evidence is there, but with your type, braindead and blind, there is no reason to as your as ignorant and as retarded as the people who believe in the flat earth theory.
Oh dear. Does the cluster bomb count as life-saving technology.Greebozz said:
If you can point out where I'm displaying arrogance here, feel free to share it with everyone. I suspect I'm much more proud of my Western heritage than you are, because it's based on knowledge and not garbage.
If you're a troll, you're not a very good one.
If you're not, you're a moron.
Fez909
toilet expert
Hmmm, I thought you could be reasoned with, but what a post! Greebozz, you've got serious problems if you believe all that "what have the Middle-East ever done for us" bollocks that usually comes out of right-wing American mouths.
Do you honestly believe that the entire region are savages who want to kill Westerners, for no reason!? I don't believe you're that thick/bigoted/whatever, but you'll probably go and prove me wrong in the next post to this.
Do you honestly believe that the entire region are savages who want to kill Westerners, for no reason!? I don't believe you're that thick/bigoted/whatever, but you'll probably go and prove me wrong in the next post to this.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Greebozz said:
What an ignorant twat
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm saying that if you take other people to task for not sharing your convictions, you yourself should at least live up to those convictions. If you hate Iranians/totalitarians/religious nuts/whatever so very much then the very least you can do is put yourself in harms' way defending your beliefs.Greebozz said:
That's not "putting yourself on the line", the only "harm" you expose yourself to here is this risk of being made to face your own inadequacies. Psychic harm doesn't count.
It doesn't take much innate ability to be a soldier, just training, training, training.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Before you make such crass and ill-informed statements I recommend you (yet again) to familiarise yourself with some basic history, that way you won't be quite so easily tempted to make crass and trollish statements like the above.Greebozz said:
"Medical advances", eh?
Any idea who invented many of the surgical tools still used today.
Who invented the blast furnace?
Who first quantified many of the laws of chemistry?
I could go on, but the effort would, I fear, be wasted on someone who has the gall to call other people arrogant when possessed of so much arrogance himself.
"Implication"?
The "evidence" is nowhere near solid enough to support an "implication, Greebozz, as you'd know if you'd taken in any of the information that other people have posted on this thread.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Greebozz said:
So anyone who dares rub your nose into the depths of your ignorance gets ignored?
That's not only pathetic, it's cowardly.
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