"This land was given to us by God"

[Loki]

Yeah. You tell me I don't know any palestinians, but you know three. And they all agree.

What exactly do you take from that, Loki?

Well they don't live in isolation; they live amongst communities, and their opinions reflect what their communities feel.

BTW, why isn't everybody standing up and cheering for the Israeli govt. for its moves to dislocate the settlers?

My understanding is Sharon is doing this as a cost-saving exercise rather than out of any compassion for the Palestinians.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Well they don't live in isolation; they live amongst communities, and their opinions reflect what their communities feel.




My understanding is Sharon is doing this as a cost-saving exercise rather than out of any compassion for the Palestinians.

So if I go out on the street in Vancouver, and I find three people who agree about something, I can extrapolate about what vancouverites think, because those three live in the community?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

My understanding is Sharon is doing this as a cost-saving exercise rather than out of any compassion for the Palestinians.

Isn't it results that count?

 

[Loki]

So if I go out on the street in Vancouver, and I find three people who agree about something, I can extrapolate about what vancouverites think, because those three live in the community?

Would you mind stopping derailing this thread? Thanks a bunch.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Yeah. You tell me I don't know any palestinians, but you know three. And they all agree.

What exactly do you take from that, Loki?

BTW, why isn't everybody standing up and cheering for the Israeli govt. for its moves to dislocate the settlers?

Maybe because elsewhere they are taking other Palestinian land?

 

[Loki]

Isn't it results that count?

Ethics count just as much. Sharon and the IDF aren't exactly unknown for gunning/bombing Palestinians and peace protestors without a second thought. And Sharon architected the settlements, squeezing already overpopulated Palestinians in the Gaza strip in the first place.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Would you mind stopping derailing this thread? Thanks a bunch.

God you've got a linear mind.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Ethics count just as much. Sharon and the IDF aren't exactly unknown for gunning/bombing Palestinians and peace protestors without a second thought. And Sharon architected the settlements, squeezing already overpopulated Palestinians in the Gaza strip in the first place.

So not only must they want to remove the settlers, they must want to remove the settlers for THE RIGHT REASONS........

Not only their actions, but their thoughts must be pure.

 

[Loki]

So not only must they want to remove the settlers, they must want to remove the settlers for THE RIGHT REASONS........

Not only their actions, but their thoughts must be pure.

Well don't you think that matters? Sharon could give a shit about the plight of the Palestinians; it's a cost-saving exercise. So I can't see why I should applaud him for doing this.

 

[Lock&Light]

Yes, simplistic if you like. And also wrong.

The simplicity I was referring to was yours with regard to the wider historical perspective.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Well don't you think that matters? Sharon could give a shit about the plight of the Palestinians; it's a cost-saving exercise. So I can't see why I should applaud him for doing this.

Because the settlers will be leaving Gaza?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

If a man saved a drowning baby because the baby is clutching the man's car keys, doesn't he deserve recognition for saving the baby?

 

[Lock&Light]

If a man saved a drowning baby because the baby is clutching the man's car keys, doesn't he deserve recognition for saving the baby?

I like that one, Johnny. Not a lot, but I do like it.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I like that one, Johnny. Not a lot, but I do like it.

Is all of Europe drunk tonight?

 

[Lock&Light]

Is all of Europe drunk tonight?

Not yet, but I'm doing my best.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Not yet, but I'm doing my best.

Time's a-wasting, dude.

If you're going to persist in typing, you should get a long straw.

 

[Lock&Light]

Time's a-wasting, dude.

If you're going to persist in typing, you should get a long straw.

Don't worry about me, Johnny. I'm celebrating my last few days as 56-year old.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Don't worry about me, Johnny. I'm celebrating my last few days as 56-year old.

We celebrated a friend's fifty-fifth last weekend.

He's a good guy, but he can't keep his eyes off the young pussy.

Congratulations on the birthday, btw.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The good thing about your mid fifties, is that you can retire soon.

The bad thing is: will you still be living?

I don't mean you, L&L, I mean 'you'.

 

[Lock&Light]

We celebrated a friend's fifty-fifth last weekend.

He's a good guy, but he can't keep his eyes off the young pussy.

Congratulations on the birthday, btw.

Thanks for the congrats, but I've still over a week to wait.

I have 'old' pussy in the form of my lovely wife, and can't keep my eyes off her.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's what I heard a Gaza settler saying on the radio today. It was immoral for the IDF to be evicting him because the land was given to them by God. Erm....right.

OK. Well, in that case, the Flying Spaghetti Monster promised me all your oranges. Come on! What are you waiting for?

if god gave the jews that land, why did he forsake his (apparently) chosen people and give all the land with oil to the moslems?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I have 'old' pussy in the form of my lovely wife, and can't keep my eyes off her.

Good reply...

But a crock. I never met a Dutchman who wasn't a horny pervert.

 

[pilchardman]

The simplicity I was referring to was yours with regard to the wider historical perspective.

I wasn't implying one. I was relating a story. It accurately reflected real views of European settlers.

 

[Lock&Light]

But a crock. I never met a Dutchman who wasn't a horny pervert.

I'm that strange exception, Johnny. A Scottish-Dutchman. It makes all the difference.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I'm that strange exception, Johnny. A Scottish-Dutchman. It makes all the difference.

I suppose adding the scots is like adding a measure of cold water to a bottle of geneever.

 

[Lock&Light]

I suppose adding the scots is like adding a measure of cold water to a bottle of geneever.

Jenever requires no extra water, just possibly some ice. Wiskey NEVER requires watering of any sort.

 

[ZWord]

The bloke is full of shit. Any good Jew knows that YHWH is a total fucking piker who always welches on his deals. If he was gullible enough to believe a great exalted schmendrick whose idea of fun is to possess bushes and play jokes on Moses then more fool him.

Funnily enough, that's more or less what an Israeli guy I met told me, while we were watching some orthodox praying at a coach stop by the dead sea.

Not that I agree, I just think YHWH is a bit of a perfectionist, and so that's why the deals appear to be welshed on. It is annoying though.

 

[Maidmarian]

if god gave the jews that land, why did he forsake his (apparently) chosen people and give all the land with oil to the moslems?

`Cos she`s got a sick sense of humor ?

 

[ZWord]

Maybe God was thinking, well at least they won't dig the place up and cover it with oil industries, or was trying to protect the chosen people from oil wars.

Always did underestimate the value of money though.. But then strictly speaking it's worthless.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

If a man saved a drowning baby because the baby is clutching the man's car keys, doesn't he deserve recognition for saving the baby?

Well, it depends whether he's stolen the father's other nine children and is giving back the one he doesn't want.