"This land was given to us by God"

[Johnny Canuck3]

There are Americans who believe that all Canadians are left-wing commies.

Doesn't make them right.

My point exactly.

 

[Dubversion]

No, but how much elucidation is to be gained by some reporter finding the most extreme or misled person, then highlighting her comments?

do you really believe her views are that extreme given the context? any more than a palestinian in the occupied territories would be that extreme expressing the reverse?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I know three and they've got nothing against the Israelis,

Do you know how ridiculous that sentence makes you look?

 

[Lock&Light]

My point exactly.

I thought it was, Johnny.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

do you really believe her views are that extreme given the context? any more than a palestinian in the occupied territories would be that extreme expressing the reverse?

Her views are extreme in that it's unlikely that they are held by the majority of israelis.

 

[Dubversion]

Her views are extreme in that it's unlikely that they are held by the majority of israelis.

but she wasn't interviewed as an Israeli, but specifically as a settler.

you're normally much sharper than this, JC2.

 

[Loki]

Do you know how ridiculous that sentence makes you look?

Guess I'm just ridiculous Johnny. Meanwhile the deadline for the Gaza pullout has expired. Force will be used sometime tomorrow for the hardline resisters.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

but she wasn't interviewed as an Israeli, but specifically as a settler.

you're normally much sharper than this, JC2.

She wasn't an Israeli?

And almost by definition, the settlers who have stayed in contravention of the orders of the govt, are extremists.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Which is why I question what this thread is about in the first place.

Is anyone surprised that the remaining settlers who are being carried out bodily, believe that the land was given to them by God?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

BTW, a lot of native american tribes believed that their traditional lands were gifts from their god.

 

[Dubversion]

She wasn't an Israeli?

And almost by definition, the settlers who have stayed in contravention of the orders of the govt, are extremists.

oh don't be an arse, JC2. as for your first point, if i interview an English footballer about football, am i interviewing him as an englishman or a football player?

also - yes, precisely, they are extremists. which is what i said, that within HER OWN CONTEXT, her views are not extremist.

thanks for finally agreeing

 

[pilchardman]

Which is why I question what this thread is about in the first place.

Is anyone surprised that the remaining settlers who are being carried out bodily, believe that the land was given to them by God?

I'm not surprised, no. But I was amused. Hence the tenor of my initial post.

Look, if we can't occasionally laugh at the lunacy at the root of all this, then we'll go mad. Surely.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I'm not surprised, no. But I was amused. Hence the tenor of my initial post.

Look, if we can't occasionally laugh at the lunacy at the root of all this, then we'll go mad. Surely.

I agree. That's why I get a chuckle out of that 'seventy-five virgins' nonsense.

 

[Lock&Light]

Guess I'm just ridiculous Johnny. Meanwhile the deadline for the Gaza pullout has expired. Force will be used sometime tomorrow for the hardline resisters.

Regrettably there is still insufficient force being brought on the Israeli government, otherwise they'd really be clearing the fanatics out of all of Palestine.

 

[pilchardman]

BTW, a lot of native american tribes believed that their traditional lands were gifts from their god.

As did the settlers who took them.

They even had proof: the dead and dying natives in each village they encountered. (The truth was they'd been trading with these dudes for miles, and the traders were taking fancy new European diseases back to the villages...)

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Guess I'm just ridiculous Johnny. Meanwhile the deadline for the Gaza pullout has expired. Force will be used sometime tomorrow for the hardline resisters.

Yeah. You tell me I don't know any palestinians, but you know three. And they all agree.

What exactly do you take from that, Loki?

BTW, why isn't everybody standing up and cheering for the Israeli govt. for its moves to dislocate the settlers?

 

[Lock&Light]

As did the settlers who took them.

They even had proof: the dead and dying natives in each village they encountered. (The truth was they'd been trading with these dudes for miles, and the traders were taking fancy new European diseases back to the villages...)

I'm sorry, pilch, but I have to say that I find that more than little simplistic.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

As did the settlers who took them.

They even had proof: the dead and dying natives in each village they encountered. (The truth was they'd been trading with these dudes for miles, and the traders were taking fancy new European diseases back to the villages...)

Yeah, and it still goes on today, with the settlers believing that god gave them the land, and the islamics believing that it's their religious duty to remove the settlers.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

also - yes, precisely, they are extremists. which is what i said, that within HER OWN CONTEXT, her views are not extremist.

thanks for finally agreeing

So then what is newsworthy or noteworthy about the story?

 

[Dubversion]

Yeah, and it still goes on today, with the settlers believing that god gave them the land, and the islamics believing that it's their religious duty to remove the settlers.

are the 'islamics' trying to remove them because of some religious imperative, or because they want their fucking state back?

 

[pilchardman]

I'm sorry, pilch, but I have to say that I find that more than little simplistic.

What? The view that settlers had that this land was given to them by God? As per the proof of dying natives.

Yes, simplistic if you like. And also wrong.

 

[Dubversion]

So then what is newsworthy or noteworthy about the story?

and round we go in circles.

have a coffee or something, JC2.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

are the 'islamics' trying to remove them because of some religious imperative, or because they want their fucking state back?

What state?

 

[Dubversion]

ok, land.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

and round we go in circles.

have a coffee or something, JC2.

"Nazi Guards in Concentration Camp Shocker: They Hate Jews!"

 

[pilchardman]

And here we go with the self hating Jews again!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

ok, land.

Or.... region of the Ottoman empire.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

and round we go in circles.

have a coffee or something, JC2.

There's a song for this, but I don't want to get in trouble with the mods.


BTW, is it bar night in england tonight or something?

 

[pilchardman]

BTW, is it bar night in england tonight or something?

Yes, all the lawyers with wigs are here.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Yes, all the lawyers with wigs are here.

You'd probably get called to the bar more if you skinned up for a round on occasion...