This is England- Crap/Not Crap

[gabi]

Good, but nowhere near the class of Meadows.

Class? Jesus.

I really honestly don't see any class in his film-making. I guess different folks, different strokes, beauty in the eye of the beholder etc. He seems utterly fraudulent and contrived to me? This is England being the absolute nadir..

 

[butchersapron]

'fraudulent'?

 

[josef1878]

The point is, it's a film about skins. There was a lot of new romantic music about at the time as well, and there's none of that in it.

Guess why?

Cos the film ISN'T ABOUT NEW ROMANTICS.

Fuck me, you're as thick as me

Who wheeled you in?

 

[sojourner]

Class? Jesus.

I really honestly don't see any class in his film-making. I guess different folks, different strokes, beauty in the eye of the beholder etc. He seems utterly fraudulent and contrived to me? This is England being the absolute nadir..

*shrugs*

I absolutely loved it, from the first second to the end of the film. Perhaps you get more out of it if you've lived through those times...I was gobsmacked at a lot of it, it was THAT close to what i remember..

sent shivers through me. but there ya go

 

[josef1878]

I know son, its about skins. Some of em liked oi and punk.

 

[sojourner]

I know son, its about skins. Some of em liked oi and punk.

you know you just quoted yourself there?

heh - fast edit

 

[gabi]

*shrugs*

I absolutely loved it, from the first second to the end of the film. Perhaps you get more out of it if you've lived through those times...I was gobsmacked at a lot of it, it was THAT close to what i remember..

sent shivers through me. but there ya go

See - I discussed this with my former flatmate who lived thru it and a fairly similar scene and he reckoned it was completely and utterly unrealistic too. So, oh I dunno... each to their own

 

[sojourner]

See - I discussed this with my former flatmate who lived thru it and a fairly similar scene and he reckoned it was completely and utterly unrealistic too. So, oh I dunno... each to their own

I shivered right from the start, it was that realistic for me

i was pointing to myself (no one else in the room to do it to) going 'oh my GOD, yeh!!'

 

[Hi-ASL]

Utter fucking bilge, unrealistic, preposterous and embarrassing storyline played out by unengaging half-wits, director needs to go back to film school or just give up altogether, pursue a different dream, leave film-making to the professionals and the talented amateurs. Don't agree with gabi that he's 'fraudulent', just think he's incompetent, have honestly never seen such a pile of complete and utter dross in all my life and am genuinely mystified by the adulation, but there you go, there's nowt stranger than folk.

Apart from that, loved it, yeah.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Spielberg thread's over there >>>>>>>>>>

 

[sojourner]

Utter fucking bilge, unrealistic, preposterous and embarrassing storyline played out by unengaging half-wits, director needs to go back to film school or just give up altogether, pursue a different dream, leave film-making to the professionals and the talented amateurs. Don't agree with gabi that he's 'fraudulent', just think he's incompetent, have honestly never seen such a pile of complete and utter dross in all my life and am genuinely mystified by the adulation, but there you go, there's nowt stranger than folk.

Apart from that, loved it, yeah.

you're only saying that cos you were on the outside of things

 

[pk]

Fucks sake, once you get past the novelty of it being a bleak seventies skin movie, it has about as much depth as an episode of Neighbours.

I helped Shane Meadows in his first movie, "Where's The Money Ronnie", lovely guy he was too, but he's still a student film maker at heart and if that's what he wants then more power to him. Some people are reading far too much into what amounts to simple loosely scripted drama IMO.

 

[embree]

Fucks sake, once you get past the novelty of it being a bleak seventies skin movie, it has about as much depth as an episode of Neighbours.

I helped Shane Meadows in his first movie, "Where's The Money Ronnie", lovely guy he was too, but he's still a student film maker at heart and if that's what he wants then more power to him. Some people are reading far too much into what amounts to simple loosely scripted drama IMO.

you can't have been paying much attention if you think it was set in the seventies

 

[ChrisFilter]

Enjoyed it, but DMS was far better. DMS is one of the best films I've ever seen. Leaving the cinema we were all a bit numb, rare that a film gets me like that.

 

[pk]

you can't have been paying much attention if you think it was set in the seventies

OK very early eighties then, but the point still stands.

Improvised scripts don't mean well executed stories.

 

[embree]

Summer of 1983, as is made clear by the entire plot. I do think that missing this shows you haven't watched it very carefully, it's made absolutely clear in the opening frames and by the fact that the kid's troubled because of his dad's death in the Falklands. It's not exactly a subtle point we're talking about here.

I enjoyed it fwiw