"This Bus Has Changed Its Destination"

[Yossarian]

Is this the guy who starts the thread complaining about the MOBO awards every year?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Our buses never ever change their destination. It's an impossibility.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

 

[dodgepot]

Cut out the announcement of the bus route altogether. We know which bus we're on - blind or otherwise. That's why we got on it.

but not everyone on the bus will know exactly where the stop they want it is. it might be the first time they've used that bus route. also, if you're not used to a bus route and the bus is packed and the windows all steamed up due to it being cold and wet outside or it's dark and you can't see out, these announcements could be quite helpful.

 

[Crispy]

I have already found the stop announcements incredibly useful, I think they're great.

 

[two sheds]

So basically what you're saying is that every single organisation on this planet could be accused of being 'institutionally racist' ... thus meaning it is no different than any other, consequently completely nullifying the idea.

Ahhhhhh so if EVERYBODY were to discriminate against Jews (for example), then NOBODY would be discriminating against Jews. Good logic, I see exactly where you're coming from, and where you're headed

 

[dodgepot]

@crispy duck - conclusive proof that they are a good thing even if they are annoying to some ^^^^

 

[co-op]

So basically what you're saying is that every single organisation on this planet could be accused of being 'institutionally racist' ... thus meaning it is no different than any other, consequently completely nullifying the idea.

Your ability to follow a logical argument is a tad weak.

You "could" make any accusation of anything against anyone. That doesn't mean that all of those accusations have the same value.

 

[T & P]

I have already found the stop announcements incredibly useful, I think they're great.

They're far too loud for my liking.

But at least they could leave out the "this the xxx for Marylebourne [or wherever]" that gets announced every fucking single time after a bus stop

 

[grubby local]

england is a country of audio hell. go to the shop "go to til number six please' etc etc. the bus announcements just make it de rigour to use an ipod to stop going mad. more and more useless crap, totally unnecessary made by people who never use the buses. It's insane. Why, suddenly, after XXXX years do we need bus announcements, or be told which fucking till is free. What is wrong with eyes? asking questions "scuse me do you which stop etc"? I can avoid the speaking shop, I cant avoid the speaking bus. FUCKING STOP!
gx

 

[fogbat]

You can't explain, or understand, a non existant 'concept'.

Too many people are too quick to cry 'racism' except when it's aimed at white people.

Psst, wrong forum.

I think you intended to post here.

 

[fogbat]

You abominable cunt.

Post reported.


As "awesome"

 

[ajdown]

Those sort of responses don't bother me in the slightest. It only goes to prove that I am in fact right, and there is no valid, rational argument to try and disprove what I am trying to say.

In their frustration, the person simply responds with profanity as they don't have anything else they can think of.

 

[Boycey]

Psst, wrong forum.

I think you intended to post here.

i was thinking he'd missed this thread.

 

[cybertect]

They even have announcements that tell passengers "there are seats available on the upper deck". While this might be useful, it was repeated about 7 times before it shut up.

Reckon I could do with that announcement on my regular bus route where the school kids congregate en masse round the staircase, entrance and exit, meaning that the bus often whizzes past my stop even though I can see plenty of room upstairs.

I sometimes wonder if they're even aware that the top deck exists

 

[El Jefe]

In their frustration, the person simply responds with profanity as they don't have anything else they can think of.

Cuntsock

 

[matrix_22]

Deborah Orr (journalist, Stockwell resident and partner of Will Self) was banging on about them in the paper the other day - http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...votes-just-because-of-your-gender-920820.html

"I beg of them not to launch an investigation ascertaining whether "institutional racism" exists on buses. My friend John has rooted it out already himself, and so have those thus discriminated against. There he was, literally on the Clapham omnibus, and all was well except for the annoying electronic voice that kept booming out the location of the next stop (and which we all have to remind ourselves must be useful to the blind).

Then the bus stopped at a school and a couple of black teenagers got on, perfectly quietly, and sat near my friend. Suddenly, the announcements changed and the voice started saying: "Anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated, and miscreants may be banned from carrying bus passes." There were several other variations on the same theme.

"Goodness," he thought, "The driver's switched to that message just because those kids got on." At which point one boy, quite calmly, said to the other: "They change to those announcements when we get on, you know." What a miserable, shameful thing for an intelligent young person to understand about his place in the world. "

In fairness that isn't a racist thing to do unless that particular message is only operated on buses when black kids get on - its aimed at kids in general i guess - rightly or wrongly

 

[quimcunx]

So you haven't seen job applications that say things like "preference will be given to ethnic minority candidates that are currently under-represented within our company"?

Have you seen this? http://www.ethnicjobsite.co.uk/ ... if there was a 'whites only job site', wouldn't there be outrage?

Brixton Hill's very own "http://www.ekaya.co.uk/" ... if there was a 'whites only housing association', wouldn't there be outrage?

We have the National Black Police Associaion - http://www.nationalbpa.com/ - where's the 'white police association'?

I could go on. But my point is clearly made. There is plenty of racism against white people, but fewer and fewer people want to admit it, and having suffered years of tossers like Red Ken in charge pushing everything for minorities at the expense of the rest of us is showing.

Re: quote in bold.
That racism exists to such an extent that organisations like the ones you mention are called upon to try and redress the balance?

That's clearly the point you've made, from what I can see.

You also mention racism against white people. Do you care to provide any examples of that?

Of course everyone is prejudiced to some degree against some things/people and white people don't have a monoply on prejudice against other racial groups. Human being is human. It's not fair, indeed a little racist, to expect non-whites to more successfully uphold a moral standard we so often fail to uphold ourselves.

However, prejudice is at its worst when those in possession of it have the power to exercise that prejudice. A power, in this country, held most often by white people.

 

[two sheds]

Those sort of responses don't bother me in the slightest. It only goes to prove that I am in fact right, and there is no valid, rational argument to try and disprove what I am trying to say.

In their frustration, the person simply responds with profanity as they don't have anything else they can think of.

Well i tried the rational approach. On reflection there's only one response to you and that's what El Jefe just said

 

[quimcunx]

Reckon I could do with that announcement on my regular bus route where the school kids congregate en masse round the staircase, entrance and exit, meaning that the bus often whizzes past my stop even though I can see plenty of room upstairs.

I sometimes wonder if they're even aware that the top deck exists

This isn't at all restricted to *devil* schoolchildren where I am. It's very annoying though.

 

[ajdown]

A power, in this country, held most often by white people.

Why is that such a problem? Would you go to Iran and complain that majority of the power is held by Moslems?

If people want to come to this country, then providing they meet all the requirements laid down by the government, then they should abide by our rules. We shouldn't have to bend over backwards to accommodate their special requirements.

Look at the amount of money wasted on translation by the emergency services, local councils and schools for the growing immigrant population; it should be a basic requirement for anyone seeking to settle in this country that they have at least a basic understanding, if not fluency, of our native language.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

If people want to come to this country, then providing they meet all the requirements laid down by the government, then they should abide by our rules.

OK. Don't you also think they should have the same rights and opportunities as everyone else, one of which not feeling like a second class citizen?

 

[ajdown]

OK. Don't you also think they should have the same rights and opportunities as everyone else, one of which not feeling like a second class citizen?

Honestly, no I don't think they should. I can't think of any other country where immigrants get everything else handed to them straight away without any kind of qualifying period.

 

[fogbat]

*pages Captain Picard*

 

[Crispy]

*pages Captain Picard*

This is Dr. Crusher.

I'm afraid the captain can't leave the sickbay due to critical forehead and palm abrasions.

 

[cliche guevara]

Is this guy trolling or is he actually that much of a dick?

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Honestly, no I don't think they should. I can't think of any other country where immigrants get everything else handed to them straight away without any kind of qualifying period.

Right, what about my mate who is a third generation immigrant (all three generations have worked for public services btw), and who now after the July bombings gets stopped and searched all the fucking time now? Has he and his family lived here long enough to stop being treated as second class citizens?

 

[quimcunx]

Why is that such a problem? Would you go to Iran and complain that majority of the power is held by Moslems?

If people want to come to this country, then providing they meet all the requirements laid down by the government, then they should abide by our rules. We shouldn't have to bend over backwards to accommodate their special requirements.

Look at the amount of money wasted on translation by the emergency services, local councils and schools for the growing immigrant population; it should be a basic requirement for anyone seeking to settle in this country that they have at least a basic understanding, if not fluency, of our native language.

You seem to have ignored almost all of my post. The part that explains when that becomes a problem for non-white people.

OK. Don't you also think they should have the same rights and opportunities as everyone else, one of which not feeling like a second class citizen?

Honestly, no I don't think they should. I can't think of any other country where immigrants get everything else handed to them straight away without any kind of qualifying period.

You appear to have moved the goal posts. First you were talking about non-white people, now you're talking about immigrants. You seem confused. They are not the same thing.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

This is Dr. Crusher.

I'm afraid the captain can't leave the sickbay due to critical forehead and palm abrasions.

Text me back about trains Beverly!

 

[quimcunx]

Is this guy trolling or is he actually that much of a dick?

dick

or troll.

either way. whatever.

Neither is anything to be proud of.