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There should be an English sister party to Plaid, on the left

But why would you want one? Except maybe for electoral expediency? Doesn't nationalism by definition prioritise one nation above others? If not then surely it's just a liking for real ale and cricket.

Couldn't it just recognise some shared experiences of belonging to a place? That would be it's reason for being; to take account of those shared experiences. It would always be changing, always fought over, but does it have to be hierarchical?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
yes it is!

nationalism is based on distorting and mythologising history and fudging the question of class and inequality within the nation.

Your right about lots of people from N.Wales moving to S.Wales. Some Cardiff people compain about all this gentrification going on!

Have you tried reading anything by James Connoly. He reconciles the left with nationalism quite eloquently.
 
Have you tried reading anything by James Connoly. He reconciles the left with nationalism quite eloquently.

Leaving aside the fundamental difference between the relationship of Ireland to Britain in 1916 and Wales to Britain in 2008, Yes, actually I have. Though I'm not sure what relevance someone talking in a colonial context has to Wales. Incidentally, we should always criticise the politics of nationalists engaged in genuine liberation struggles, for example the PLO or Sinn Fein, in that their nationalism being cross-class leads them to seek an accomodation with Empire and the Ruling Class.

Connolly argued the middle and upper class leadership of the nationalist movement had a record of betrayal in his polemics against nationalists like Grattan and O'Connell on the basis that they feared the masses more than the British because a movement from below might threaten their class position and wealth. This has affinity with Trotsky's theory of permanent revolution that only the working class can be relied upon to consistently fight against imperialism.

Connolly was the guy who on the eve of the Easter Rising cautioned his men that

In the event of victory hold on to your rifles, as those with whom we are fighting may stop before our goal is reached. We are out for economic as well as political liberty.

In Labour in Irish History, Connolly has some beautiful passages where he highlights the role that workers struggles have made in the fight against imperialism in comparison with the politics of nationalism.

For Conolly nation never came before class:

If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the Green Flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic your efforts would be in vain. England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through the whole army of commercial-industrial institutions she has planted in the country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs. England would rule you to your ruin.

Connolly not only polemicised against natinoalism but stressed the need for independent working class organisation even while working in a united front during 1916 to oppose British rule.

There is an ambiguity in some of Connolly's phrasing when he talks about the cause of labour being Ireland and Ireland being the cause of labour and irish for the irish, but a guy who wrote stuff like this I think is very clear where he stands:

After Ireland is free, says the patriot who won't touch Socialism, we will protect all classes, and if you won't pay your rent you will be evicted same as now. But the evicting party, under command of the sheriff, will wear green uniforms and the Harp without the Crown, and the warrant turning you out on the roadside will be stamped with the arms of the Irish Republic.

Now, isn't that worth fighting for?

And when you cannot find employment, and, giving up the struggle of life in despair, enter the Poorhouse, the band of the nearest regiment of the Irish army will escort you to the Poorhouse door to the tune of St. Patrick's Day.

Oh, it will be nice to live in those days...

Now, my friend, I also am Irish, but I'm a bit more logical. The capitalist, I say, is a parasite on industry...

The working class is the victim of this parasite - this human leech, and it is the duty and interest of the working class to use every means in its power to oust this parasite class from the position which enables it to thus prey upon the vitals of Labour.

Therefore, I say, let us organise as a class to meet our masters and destroy their mastership; organise to drive them from their hold upon public life through their political power; organise to wrench from their robber clutch the land and workshops on and in which they enslave us; organise to cleanse our social life from the stain of social cannibalism, from the preying of man upon his fellow man.
 
I would say that the role of an English left-nationalist party - i.e. an English Republican Left, is currently electorally filled to all intents and purposes by the Green Party in England - witness the difference of the Green Party composition and voter base in England compared to Scotland and Wales where there is a civic nationalist alternative.

Nevertheless, the Green Party in England is a zone of contestation - and could well be captured by centre-right/bureaucratic elements as in Ireland, Germany and other parts of Europe - at some stage in the future there might be space for an English Republican Left Party. At the moment the Green Left current and others hold back the more right-wing tendency in the Greens and seek allliance with others on the left (see this Autumn's Manchester Convention of the Left) on an ecosocialist platform.

But as Lewis Lewis suggests there is a case to be made for a new united left party in England on a specifically radical democratic and republican platform, rather than the recreation of the failed 20th Century Labour Party project that some on the left (particularly some Trotskyists nostalgic for the heady days of entryism;)) seem to envisage. This new party would necessarily be in a dynamic relationship with the more militant and industrial unionist expressions of organised labour (again we might refer to the Connolly model here), the green movement and community campaigns, rather than falling hostage to the bureaucratic tendencies of the corporatist "general mega-union" TU leaderships that would be the probable fate of a Labour Party Mk2 (if it first managed not to avoid falling to the classic sectarian squabbling that characterised the collapse of the Socialist Alliance and Respect).

See a programme for an English Republican Left.
 
Agreed. There is a market for an English Left party.

Not a nationalistic one. A Leftist English nationalist party is a contradictionin terms. While still reprehensible, Welsh and Scottish nationalisms are less pernicious because at least they purport to represent oppressed cultures. England in sharp contrast is an imperialist culture, and English nationalism is thus inherently reactionary.
 
The words progressive and nationalist as found in the OP just don't go together. If Welsh and Scots people voted for Nationalist parties for many it may will have been as a protest against the right wing policies of the British government, rather than as Nationalist sentiment.

If an English Parliament was created leading to an English National Party I can imagine that it would be instantly infected with the previous members of the BNP and other similar groups in their image. Socialism is Internationalist or it is nothing.
 
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