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Structaural said:
Also 'Fitness Rocks' seems to be a website selling a whole heap of stuff, not particularly unbiased.

it's a good site.
he's basically a doctor at a uni interviewing other professors and experts on latest breakthroughs in health/medicine.

i listen to it for foods i not touched before. or methods in excercising i not thought of.

he's also a veggie.
 
CharlieAddict said:
meat and milk are capitalist products.
but that doesn't mean it can't be healthy.

Of course but if the overriding concern is to sell and have your products consumed then health rarely comes into it. Bulking your products with water taste enhancers, preservatives and lobbying parliament to advertise meat and milk more is.

Also it's interesting that report talks about the calcium in milk (everyone talks about that it seems), when the pasterisation process destroys the very enzymes that help us absorb said calcium. Also Lactase (which we need to digest milk) is not found in mature adults - so we're the same as every other mammal in that respect.
 
Structaural said:
Of course but if the overriding concern is to sell and have your products consumed then health rarely comes into it. Bulking your products with water taste enhancers, preservatives and lobbying parliament to advertise meat and milk more is.

the nature of the beast - your statement reminded of the rBGH scare in milk when Fox News tried to cover it up...

can't really argue with you there.
cos the production of meat and quality control aren't the best of buddies.

another reason to purchase organic/free range it seems...
 
Most days, I eat a reasonable amount of raw food for my lunch. A deliciously healthy salad made from tuna, watercress, olives, tomatoes, carrots, brazil nuts, sunflower seeds, and avocadoes. With sunblush tomatoes.
 
Cheesypoof said:
Most days, I eat a reasonable amount of raw food for my lunch. A deliciously healthy salad made from tuna, watercress, olives, tomatoes, carrots, brazil nuts, sunflower seeds, and avocadoes. With sunblush tomatoes.

Raw tuna?
 
Structaural said:
Also Lactase (which we need to digest milk) is not found in mature adults - so we're the same as every other mammal in that respect.
As I understood it the human body keeps producing lactase whilever there is milk in the diet. The genes are only switched off (and can't be switched back on again) if you stop drinking milk for a while. :confused:
 
Structaural said:
Read about this guys experiements on raw food and cats and what happened to them when he switched to pasteurised milk (done in the 30s):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottenger
If you read the bit just after the cats experiment it explains that those problems were due to a lack of turine in the cats diet which is an essential amino acid for cats but one which we can synthesise so don't need it in our diets.
 
WouldBe said:
As I understood it the human body keeps producing lactase whilever there is milk in the diet. The genes are only switched off (and can't be switched back on again) if you stop drinking milk for a while. :confused:

As I understand it's more genetic, Anglos are the most tolerant, Asians the least. The enzyme just diminshes over time.
 
WouldBe said:
If you read the bit just after the cats experiment it explains that those problems were due to a lack of turine in the cats diet which is an essential amino acid for cats but one which we can synthesise so don't need it in our diets.

I used to have to add that to homemade cat mix I used to make... It's said to be the reason you can't feed dog food to cats.

If you continue it also says that the cats were still doing worse on pasteurized versus non-heated. So even with the lack of turine in both studies the heated milk did worse.

However, when comparing the cats fed 1/3 raw meat and 2/3 raw milk to the cats fed 1/3 raw meat and 2/3 pasteurized milk, there were significant differences in the pasteurized cats, including an undeveloped heart, fatty atrophy of the liver, and poor intestinal tone.[1]
 
Structaural said:
If you continue it also says that the cats were still doing worse on pasteurized versus non-heated. So even with the lack of turine in both studies the heated milk did worse.
Due to what though?
Is something destroyed in pasteurised milk that we can get from other sources or make internally?

We aren't cats. ;)
 
WouldBe said:
Due to what though?
Is something destroyed in pasteurised milk that we can get from other sources or make internally?

We aren't cats. ;)

No, or mice. ;)

I dunno - go do some experiments. I'm getting a cow delivered, none of that pasteurized milk for me, I'll keep it in the bathroom. :)
 
Structaural said:
Isn't that when you only eat fruit and veg that's fallen from a tree/bush?

Sort off, I think they can eat things picked from the tree, like apples, but not things that are "killed" e.g. carrots being uprooted from the ground.

He also refused to travel in cars and wanted to go to the toilet on the compost heap instead of the loo.
 
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