The workers aren't loving it! Staff at Mc Donald's vote to strike for better pay and conditions.

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by tim, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    So staff at two branches have voted to strike to get fixed contracts and a £10.00 an hour minimum salary. Excellent news, let's hope other branches join and we see justice for the Comrades working in our biggest High Street food retailer.

    McDonald's could face first UK strikes - BBC News

    Remember of course that these bastards shit on their workers worldwide.

  2. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Good luck to them, solidarity.
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  3. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    Death to ronald and up the workers.
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  4. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    I'm unsure of the detail here (don't know if the £10 an hour's been won) but Hungry For Justice are reporting a victory already:

  5. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    Not sure why but I thought McDs was a franchise type gig. I'm all for people being paid more, good luck to them.
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  6. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    Some restaurants are directly owned by the company others are franchises.
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  7. Maharani

    Maharani Just like Heaven

    Have you seen how ridiculously inclusive their advertising campaigns try to be? These are some sick mother fuckers that lie about how amazing it is to work for them. Bastards.

    I'll try and find one to post here.
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  8. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

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  9. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Not fully read up on this but to be fair to the evil capitalists they seem to have resolved this quickly. If so a damn sight quicker than most corporates?
  10. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    From what I can see this has barely even started never mind being resolved. WHy do you think its resolved? because of this>>>?

    for clarity i dont think this tweet is about this dispute - i think it refers to a longer running issue to guarantee numbers of hours.
    How do you know what they can or cant afford to pay or not?
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2017
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  11. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Ok, I'll reword that.

    They won't submit to £10 an hour.
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  12. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    They announced in April that any worker who requested it could get guarateed hours - but they didn't actually tell most of their staff.

    And of course they can afford £10 an hour, they've already given in to the equivalent demand in New Zealand.
  13. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Sure they can afford it. They can afford a lot more. But I've made no previous comment on what they can or can't afford.
  14. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    They've also submitted to it.
  15. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    You mean in NZ?
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2017
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  16. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

  17. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Got any links?

    According to this McD's New Zealand crew members average $13.41/hour (about £7.60), against a national adult minimum wage of around $15 (not all their crew members are adults).

    The above figures may be a year or so out of date but I can't find anything suggesting they've changed that much.
  18. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

  19. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    I think you've misread that.

    That says Unite achieved a $15/hour minimum wage in NZ. In New Zealand dollars that's the equivalent of £7.60, and McD's crew members don't average minimum wage because many are youngsters. I think you're confusing it with US dollars referred to elsewhere in the Guardian piece about the American Fight for 15 campaign, where $15 is currently the equivalent of £11.62 (and even there it's a campaign hope rather than the current reality).

    It certainly doesn't say McD's pay their NZ staff £10/hour minimum.
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  20. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

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  21. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    And what happened to my first post on this thread (the one Ska Invita quoted in post #10)?

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  22. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    $15 seems to be the rate the union considered to be equivalent (wage comparisons based on the rate of exchange are always a bit dubious), and a raise of some 20%, so not miles away from the 30% they want here.

    It's from another thread - the 'Why do you want to close down McDonalds' one
  23. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    Clicking the little arrow in the quote (next to your name) takes me to a post on the other thread.
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  24. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Nah. $15 is the national minimum wage, not the McDonalds minimum wage.

    That's nowhere near McD's having previously submitted to a minimum wage demand of the equivalent of £10 an hour anywhere in the world. Also, as you can see from the Glassdoor survey the average Kiwi crew member wage is still a fair bit less than the $15 national adult minimum. Nothing posted so far points to any precedent of industrial action being successful at McDonalds.

    Still, we'll see. Good luck to them, but I think it's an enormous leap that won't happen in a month of Sundays.
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  25. Spymaster

    Spymaster Trigger

    Last edited: Aug 21, 2017
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  26. Sparkle Motion

    Sparkle Motion Well-Known Member

    My history may be murky here, but McDonald's in Cambridge shouldn't really exist. For years the council refused every planning application they made, on the grounds of not wanting them in the city. So McDonald's simply bought an existing restaurant and converted it.
  27. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

  28. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    They won't as £10 would put their workers on more money then many people doing more "skilled" jobs. On a 40 hour week it be a bit over 20k. Whilst I agree everyone should be getting at least that, it's isn't going to happen.
  29. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    not with just two branches on strike, no. But this issue isn't going away - things can only get worse for low paid workers. I think its likely this strike is the tip of a coming iceberg
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  30. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Some horror stories from that No Logo book back in the day. I guess they haven't improved much. Missus worked in a busy branch many years back, must ask if it was shit.

    This is a very good thing, btw. And I hope more follow suit.

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