The "White Genocide" Meme

[marty21]

I've seen a few stickers round Mcr & Salford - 'multiculturalism is genocide' - no address, but publicised on a pro-bnp blog. I won't link it up, but it's dead easy to find.

in a similar vein - abortion as genocide as well

 

[butchersapron]

Sure, I meant the 'white genocide' thing specifically though, not the whole new right movement.

I hadn't realised Yockey was so important in laying down the early pan-European networks, I'd always seen him primarily as an influence on the anti capitalist flavour of the US far-right.

Oddly enough he was far more influential in europe (and even the soviet bloc as was), His US influence was mainly through the liberty lobby (and their huge range of fronts) and was shorn of the sort of anti-american and anti-capital elements - precisely what attracted the europeans to him.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Oddly enough he was far more influential in europe (and even the soviet bloc as was), His US influence was mainly through the liberty lobby (and their huge range of fronts) and was shorn of the sort of anti-american and anti-capital elements - precisely what attracted the europeans to him.

I followed up your comment and can see that. I was familiar with him in relation to Madole and other mystic bro nazi types

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It's also maybe worth looking at demographic shifts. Aaron Bastani was saying that white people will be a minority in America by 2050/2060 based on projections. That might be balls, but I would guess it's the sort of thing that gives white supremacists sleepless nights.

In fact here is some fascist having a go at Aaron about this very thing:

 

[8den]

There's a whole thing about "Irish slaves" (indentured servants) in America in the 17th century. Who apparently had it much worse than African slaves (who were yknow slaves) and the plight of these Irish Slaves should negate repatriations and affirmative action.

 

[Idris2002]

There's a whole thing about "Irish slaves" (indentured servants) in America in the 17th century. Who apparently had it much worse than African slaves (who were yknow slaves) and the plight of these Irish Slaves should negate repatriations and affirmative action.

Aye, I've seen this one doing the rounds on shitebook.

 

[likesfish]

Much to the embarrassment of the western leaders (and TV commentators) present, Mugabe got a huge cheer at the memorial ceremony for Mandela. He's a hero to many, and addressed the big issue that South Africa has not addressed - land reform.

One of the Blair govt's first acts, under Clare Short, was to pull out of a land reform programme Thatcher had agreed to, in which the UK part-funded buyouts and schemes to transform large farms into smallholdings. At the fall of Rhodesia, more than 2/3 of farmland, and nearly all the best stuff, was owned by a tiny white minority. Mugabe correctly targeted land reform as a necessary process to escape the colonial legacy. When Blair reneged on previous deals, he just went ahead anyway without the funding - you can date things going nasty from that moment. We're not even talking about huge sums of money here - about 50 million quid spread over a couple of decades.

Here's Short's letter from 1997. It includes the spectacularly misjudged:



My bold - really? Is that how historical processes work? It was a massive misjudgement - on the one hand, no links to colonial interests; on the other hand, a heavy-handed moralising approach towards a former colony, seeing fit both to pull funding and give them a telling off.

Their was also the problem that mugabe and his mates were grabbing the best farms and strangely uk gov wasn't prepared to support that plan

 

[Idris2002]

Their was also the problem that mugabe and his mates were grabbing the best farms and strangely uk gov wasn't prepared to support that plan

I think you'll find that the grabbing of the best farms happened after the Blairites decided to go back on previously made promises.

Not that Bob wouldn't have done it anyway. But he was only able to exploit the land problem because it was a genuine problem. And the Blair and Short show's decision helped make it worse. That doesn't let Mugabe off the hook, but it doesn't let B and S off their hook either.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Aye, I've seen this one doing the rounds on shitebook.

It's not just on Facebook; that same argument has been made here, in past days.

 

[Idris2002]

It's not just on Facebook; that same argument has been made here, in past days.

Despite the obvious problem that no one has ever actually seen an Irish person working.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Nigel Farage struggles with question about 'white genocide'

 

[Idris2002]

Anyone remember Good Intentions, the (sound) South African guy who used to post here?

I met him once in Auckland, and we ended up in a pub where the barman turned out to be Irish.

And not only that, he had a Mayo accent. So I talked to him a bit, and he turned out to be from Westport, which is about twenty miles down the road from Castlebar.

The point is that GI was amazed by this: "wow, we don't hev enything like thet in Sath Efrica". I think that speaks to a sense of insecurity that a lot of white South Africans may have, a sense that their roots in the continent aren't secure (by comparison with a place where people can have regional accents indicating long-term, rooted, residency in a particular place, and the greater sense of security which might come from that).

Maybe that's one reason why you get Saffas who think they're threatened with genocide?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Anyone remember Good Intentions, the (sound) South African guy who used to post here?

I met him once in Auckland, and we ended up in a pub where the barman turned out to be Irish.

And not only that, he had a Mayo accent. So I talked to him a bit, and he turned out to be from Westport, which is about twenty miles down the road from Castlebar.

The point is that GI was amazed by this: "wow, we don't hev enything like thet in Sath Efrica". I think that speaks to a sense of insecurity that a lot of white South Africans may have, a sense that their roots in the continent aren't secure (by comparison with a place where people can have regional accents indicating long-term, rooted, residency in a particular place, and the greater sense of security which might come from that).

Maybe that's one reason why you get Saffas who think they're threatened with genocide?

Hmmm. Maybe. Or maybe it's because they still largely live with the privilege that was produced for them specifically because of their race by apartheid. Something produced by racism, which they nonetheless don't want to lose now.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Anyone remember Good Intentions, the (sound) South African guy who used to post here?

I met him once in Auckland, and we ended up in a pub where the barman turned out to be Irish.

And not only that, he had a Mayo accent. So I talked to him a bit, and he turned out to be from Westport, which is about twenty miles down the road from Castlebar.

The point is that GI was amazed by this: "wow, we don't hev enything like thet in Sath Efrica". I think that speaks to a sense of insecurity that a lot of white South Africans may have, a sense that their roots in the continent aren't secure (by comparison with a place where people can have regional accents indicating long-term, rooted, residency in a particular place, and the greater sense of security which might come from that).

Maybe that's one reason why you get Saffas who think they're threatened with genocide?

There's a whole bunch of really interesting stuff on globalisation (and prior forms of imperialism) leading to fears about identity and various kinds of violent attempts to prop it up.

I guess you're familiar with Arjun Appadurai "Fear of Small Numbers"?

Review here: http://www.cjsonline.ca/pdf/geoganger.pdf

I recently discovered his stuff and have been finding it very useful.

 

[Idris2002]

Hmmm. Maybe. Or maybe it's because they still largely live with the privilege that was produced for them specifically because of their race by apartheid. Something produced by racism, which they nonetheless don't want to lose now.

Well, the two are related. The idea of the "Swart gevaar" (black danger) was very strongly pushed by the National Party from the 1930s onwards.

 

[Idris2002]

There's a whole bunch of really interesting stuff on globalisation (and prior forms of imperialism) leading to fears about identity and various kinds of violent attempts to prop it up.

I guess you're familiar with Arjun Appadurai "Fear of Small Numbers"?

Review here: http://www.cjsonline.ca/pdf/geoganger.pdf

I recently discovered his stuff and have been finding it very useful.

Appadurai? I keep meaning to read him. I'll let you know when I do read him.

 

[camouflage]

pfff, intellectuals

WHATWENEEDISACTION!!!

 

[marty21]

Nigel Farage struggles with question about 'white genocide'

He wants the BNP votes but can't do anything like asking them but can't piss them off either

 

[butchersapron]

Here's an example of the middle ground between the intellectuals and the street, outlines the basic nonsense quite clearly (oh yeah, it's the jews fault):

Second, it is no longer controversial that Jews are massively overrepresented among Western elites in politics, the media, business, academia, and the professions. Jews are, moreover, among the principal promoters of trends conducive to white genocide, for example: non-white immigration, racial integration, miscegenation, feminism, and sexual liberation. Of course any attempt to blame Jews for white genocide can be hijacked into hairsplitting about historical causation. From a practical point of view, however, it is more important—and less controversial—to note that the organized Jewish community is the linchpin of opposition to nationalist, especially racial nationalist, attempts to rectify these problems going forward. How we got here is ultimately less important than how we can save ourselves. And Jews are blocking the exit.

Now, is it really plausible that the leaders of the Jewish community “know not what they do”? Jews, after all, are the people most aware of the conditions that promote or prevent genocide. Thus Jews support the existence of a Jewish state, Israel, as a refuge from genocide. Yet they oppose any attempt to preserve white homelands for white peoples. Israel is for Jews, but Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, and so forth are for everyone. Jews see intermarriage as a threat to Jewish survival, but they promote miscegenation for other groups and oppose anyone who would ban it. Jews recognize that a strong sense of Jewish identity, including pride in their history and achievements, is necessary for Jewish survival, but they promote multiculturalism and white guilt for the rest of us.

And yes, this is the project that Stephen O' Malley from Sunn O))) was involved with.

 

[Idris2002]

Well, the two are related. The idea of the "Swart gevaar" (black danger) was very strongly pushed by the National Party from the 1930s onwards.

And it doesn't seem to be on the net, at least not according to a cursory google, but when Hastings Banda was arrested in 1959, when the state of emergency was declared in the Central African Federation, a lot of the local whites apparently sincerely believed that he had just taken delivery of eight lorry loads of poison, with which he planned (or so they thought) to wreak a terrible revenge on those of European descent (once in power as president of Malawi, he proved to be one of the most conservative African leaders going). Just proving the point that this sort of nonsense has a long pedigree.