The Virtues: Shane Meadows

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Genuinely laughed-out-loud (and long) at the scene in the car.

Am finding some of the dialogue slightly 'worked' and 'grand-standing' yet still compelling. (Think this is possibly symptomatic of improvised-based drama. Noticed the same in some of Mike Leigh's work: You rehearse the scene, you grab the scene, you want to keep key elements that came out in that scene, yet cannot help but slightly 'stilt' the playing of it, again, eventually... I think, perhaps).

Still, we are playing dialogue in 'real time' and conversations and situations are awkward and not necessarily linear. Am applauding this brave attempt at TV drama. Positively bloody Shakespearean in its jags from comedy to tragedy.

 

[peterkro]

Is there any way of skipping the ads on All 4? I can't even look at another tab as it somehow knows and pauses.

Adguard ,you can pirate it but it's such a good piece of software a tenner per year is well worth it.

 

[sojourner]

My son said the first 5 minutes where he's just walking was too much for telly but I really got the feeling of someone who's always been on his own and finds it difficult to fit in anywhere.

I LOVE the slow drawn-out scenes like this. For me, the walking showed a man in transience, in constant movement, never able to settle down, used to being on the move. I thought that was massively effective, and it's reflected again and again in other scenes.

Spoiler

Do we think Craig is another victim or the abuser?

Spoiler

I think he's victim, and I think that because of the flashing. It's learned behaviour and twisted sexuality, classic signs of being sexually abused

Can't wait for tonight's episode. There's only four, isn't there, so this will be the last one. This has been one of the best things I've watched in a long time.

 

[souljacker]

Is there any way of skipping the ads on All 4? I can't even look at another tab as it somehow knows and pauses.

Open it in a new browser window and it will keep playing the ads whilst you surf other sites in your other browser window.

 

[Part 2]

I LOVE the slow drawn-out scenes like this. For me, the walking showed a man in transience, in constant movement, never able to settle down, used to being on the move. I thought that was massively effective, and it's reflected again and again in other scenes.

Aye thats more or less exactly what I said to the lad.

 

[sojourner]

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Is there any way of skipping the ads on All 4? I can't even look at another tab as it somehow knows and pauses.

Just watch the ads. It's what pays for the show.

Tonight's ep is a bit longer...

 

[Orang Utan]

Just watch the ads. It's what pays for the show

No, just cannot endure them

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I'm just catching up with episode 3

Youth club quantity tits is a classic

 

[hash tag]

Who's going to die? Damon...disabled now? Will Anna or Michael save the day.

All the actors are brilliant, especially Anna.

 

[D'wards]

That was fantastic telly.

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Poor old Craig and Dinah. I feel for those two the most

 

[D'wards]

The Virtues finale review – a drama so emotional it left you gasping for air

The Virtues finale review – a drama so emotional it left you gasping for air

 

[shifting gears]

Quality light-hearted romp from start to finish, that was [emoji51]

 

[D'wards]

Very quiet in here considering it was the most heartwrenching telly I've seen in years

 

[Part 2]

I've been used to some explosive incident in Meadows previous films and TV but starting to think there won't be one this time.

Kind of like Dead Man's Shoes, in Joe's mind he's become a monster. An alcoholic unable to be a father to his son. I imagine the ending will be his redemption in the sharing of what happened to him.

Well, I think I was part right.

I didn't feel I was as in touch with the story of Dinah but given we'd seen she had a good punch on her I would've liked her to give her vile mother a hammering.

 

[sojourner]

Wow. What stood out massively for me were the reactions of the two abusers. My mother said almost the same thing, word for word, about

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'Why are you dragging all that up now? After all this time?' Like I was the one completely in the wrong and a terrible person for bringing it up

Absolutely amazing, and based on a real episode in SM's life, going by the interview in the Guardian.

Felt completely wrung out after it. So so interesting to have the two separate reactions of Joe and Dinah too.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Appreciate the spoilers as I'm going to watch ep4 tonight

 

[Proper Tidy]

Was great this, horrible but great. My heart broke for craig

 

[D'wards]

Was great this, horrible but great. My heart broke for craig

Spoiler

Did he kill himself out of guilt, for putting Joe into the hands of the brothers? I think he did even though it wasn't his fault

 

[D'wards]

The mark of a good drama is that you wonder what the characters did next.

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Did Joe stay in Ireland?
How did Craigy's death effect Anna, Michael and Joe?
How did Michael cope with the fact his mother was killed by his sister? And that he could have prevented it, although it was no way his fault.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

The mark of a good drama is that you wonder what the characters did next.

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Did Joe stay in Ireland?
How did Craigy's death effect Anna, Michael and Joe?
How did Michael cope with the fact his mother was killed by his sister? And that he could have prevented it, although it was no way his fault.

This is all very Shane Meadows. Tidy endings are not really his thing. All his characters are left in their stories.

 

[D'wards]

This is all very Shane Meadows. Tidy endings are not really his thing. All his characters are left in their stories.

Slice o life innit. A grim one at that

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Slice o life innit. A grim one at that

Well yeah, our suffering don't just end....

 

[hash tag]

Speaking of tidy endings, after they finished shooting they rewrote and refilmed Dinah's ending....The Virtues finale review – a drama so emotional it left you gasping for air

It is open for another series, what happened next!

 

[Part 2]

Michael losing his temper over a bag of pea gravel was probably the only question I had about the episode. It didn't seem in character at all. Every episode he's been Mr laid back about everything, I mean his crew spend more time sitting about drinking tea and having a craic than doing any work anyway.

Did I miss something....where the fuck did he disappear to ?

 

[hash tag]

Sitting around drinking tea....british workmen for you

There is truth to this story

Shane Meadows: ‘For many years I didn't remember it... but it caused me a lifetime of anguish’

 

[neonwilderness]

Just finished watching the last episode. Amazing TV.

I watched it from a torrent with the breaks cut out. I should have probably watched it on All 4 to get a rest during the ads though

It is open for another series, what happened next!

Nah, they should just leave it at that. Not knowing quite what was going on in the first couple of episodes worked well, so I liked the ending be so vague too.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Awesome stuff. Will be surprised if there's a better TV show this year.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Nah, they should just leave it at that. Not knowing quite what was going on in the first couple of episodes worked well, so I liked the ending be so vague too.

Yeah, agree. I would watch more, obviously, but I do like endings that leave you wondering and thinking.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Felt completely wrung out after it. .

Yeah
Not so much a story as us witnessing him trying to integrate his story