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The Virginia killer is getting exactly what he wanted

GarfieldLeChat said:
best guess he fancied someone and was teased about it for being outof her legue or social set he couldn't deal with it and took revenge.

this is more likely than he was a mad and just went off to kill people becuase he was 'evil' whcih seems to be th etone being currently adopted...
Shooting over 30 people dead after being rejected and teased for it, even if that is what happened, qualifies him as utterly mentally unsound in my book.

This is quite good:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article1680243.ece
It is now apparent that there had been numerous warning signs that Cho Seung Hui was a bizarre and potentially dangerous character. He had caused complaints from female students, led a series of professors to express serious concern about his outlook and the tone of his output, and had been committed to a mental health institution but allowed out again shortly afterwards.

Mass shootings have, alas, long been disproportionately associated with schools and universities. That is true not simply in America but in Britain (Dunblane), continental Europe and also Russia (Beslan). While academic life liberates most students, it can compound the isolation of those who already have troubled personalities. The contrast between their insecurities and the shining social confidence elsewhere eats at them. Once they have made the warped choice to kill others and themselves, a further surreal twist of “rational” thinking may bring them to the view that slaughtering those who should have the longest to live is the ultimate in final statements.
 
slaar said:
Shooting over 30 people dead after being rejected and teased for it, even if that is what happened, qualifies him as utterly mentally unsound in my book.
Mentally unsound people are not 'evil'. McIntyre is a cock for saying so.
 
jæd said:
Where's this evidence of systematic "extreme bullying"...?

none as yet as i have said going on previous cases ... can you follow a chain of logic.. it was all clarfied unless you are some kind of pedant... oh wait.. :p


jæd said:
Such as...? Please post a quote where he names names, etc...
cho said:
You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today. But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.

that's pretty specific not names but it is saying that Cho felt hopeless or disempowered and was reacting rather than just acting out scenes from a movie...

why refference spilling his blood?

Cho said:
Do you know what it feels to be spit on your face and to have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have throat slashed from ear to ear? Do you know what it feels like to be torched alive? Do you know what it feels like to be humiliated and be impaled on a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement?

You have never felt a single ounce of pain your whole life. Did you want to inject as much misery in our lives as you can just because you can?

now while the obvious biblical reffernces can be ignored why the refference to being spat at or from having trash thrown down your throat? was it a cultural refference as in the culture is trashy or was it more litteral? hazing etc

clearl the second bit also reffers to some greivence he feels was taken out on him ...

it's not justifiying what he did, however it might explain it.

for those saying that explain it is justifying it i think they are being way to simplisticly knee jerk tbh...
 
goldenecitrone said:
Not all of them. But in that moment of walking round executing people he was the embodiment of pure evil.
the actions can be said to be evil but i think deranged would be a fairer comment than evil...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
now while the obvious biblical reffernces can be ignored why the refference to being spat at or from having trash thrown down your throat? was it a cultural refference as in the culture is trashy or was it more litteral? hazing etc

All rhetorical questions to justify/explain his ends...
 
copliker said:
Mentally unsound people are not 'evil'. McIntyre is a cock for saying so.
If he were saying that, he would be, but he's not, he's calling the actions evil. The guy was going around executing random people, and killed a guy trying to hold the door shut to save others. If a newspaper columnist can't call those actions evil then it'd be a stranger world than it already is.
Cho said:
Do you know what it feels to be spit on your face and to have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have throat slashed from ear to ear? Do you know what it feels like to be torched alive? Do you know what it feels like to be humiliated and be impaled on a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement?
This is all absolute bollocks. He's playing up to a stereotype of a victim, when he himself has suffered none of these actions.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
and you can of course proove he hasn't right...
Well, someone may have spat in his face or shoved garbage down his throat, but it seems unlikely and we'll never know anyway. He clearly hasn't dug his own grave or had his throat slashed across from ear to ear, because he would have already been dead before shooting himself. Similarly, he has not been torched alive, nor humilated by being impaled on a cross.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
and you know this how exactly name names ...

From reading other passages that use rhetorical questions to make points... He sounds like every other whining "woe-is-me-why-can't-I-be-popular" kid...
 
slaar said:
That argument doesn't make much sense. His ramblings come across as anger against anyone who he had perceived to have wronged him, whether or not they had. We have no details of any alleged bullying, unless one counts the paranoid delusions of a mass killer as evidence.

Bile against people more fortunate than oneself isn't a very good justification for murdering over 30 innocent people.
Admitting you're being bullied is another way of saying the bullies are more powerful than you. That they're winning. That he was crazy doesn't mean he wasn't bullied, that he doesn't name people and acts doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Bullied? Possibly, but his actions following it are not those of a sane person im(unqualified)o.
 
Can I just make it clear that I'm not denying for a second that he could have been bullied. Most people are at some stage. I'm just saying

(a) What he did is not a sane response to any amount of bullying.
(b) His garbled ramblings are no basis on which to judge anything.
 
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