The Urban 6 Nations 2018 Thread

Discussion in 'general sports' started by Grandma Death, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Mordi

    Mordi Amoral adventurist

    Just a heads up for anyone wanting to watch the women's (and Under 20s) Six Nations that RTE2 are showing all the Ireland games live. Which is ace.

    Makes long weekends of rugby even longer, hurray!

    Edited to make clear it's just the Ireland games, which wasn't clear from the coverage yesterday. They seemed to be suggesting they were showing the Italy v England Women's game today but can't find any sign of it.
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2018
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  2. Grandma Death

    Grandma Death Reconfiguring & Reconstructing

    Well I'm feeling a bit more confident of our chances next week (with the usual caveats) after watching this English performance.

    It's a bit by the numbers isn't it

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  3. gosub

    gosub ~#

    Got 7/2
  4. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop...Hammertime

    Barely got out of 2nd gear and scored 6 tries, not a great performance but avoided a banana skin.

    Need to be better next week tho.

    Simmonds looks the business :cool:
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  5. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    7 tries wasn't it?
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  6. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    lets see what the Welsh make of England next weekend

    if you play like that the boyos will be singing at the end of the match
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  7. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    I disagree - good England performance.

    Going off the first weekend the deciding game of the tournament may well be next week at Twickenham, which isn't words I thought I would be typing just a few days ago
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  8. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    My final standings have only altered a fraction.with Wales and Scotland swapping over - Wales into third, Scotland into 4th. Reckon Wales will finish on 15 - two bonus point wins (sco, Italy) a lbp (Ireland or England) and a four pointer against France. Don't think we have enough to win either of our away games, tbh, but then again what do I know? ;)
  9. Grandma Death

    Grandma Death Reconfiguring & Reconstructing

    You need some of what Im on. I think Wales played tremendously second half yesterday-better than anything England put together for the entire match today. Wales will head to Twickers with confidence (and thats as important as the way a team plays)...and a team featuring players that have never experienced fortress twickers or experienced a loss there. I cant but help but feel it'll be England feeling slightly nervous about this match more so than Wales. I thought England were by the numbers today. Admittedly they were excellent last quarter.

    Have faith Bendeus. I predicted to a mate it'd take a few seasons to get up to speed in this 'new style' of play and even Gats going prematurely. Like yourself, my predictions often go awry-but deep down...I think this could be on. If we beat England-Im gonna predict we'll beat Ireland and its on for a slam.

    And me, like you, never wouldve thunk that ;)
  10. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    The style of play adopted yesterday is very different from what they tried in the autumn, Owen Williams was nowhere to be seen for a start. They've just aped what the Scarlets have been doing, and thank fuck they have.
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  11. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Parkes is so key to the style of play they're trying to adopt. He can truck it up, boot the leather off it, distribute and find space and defend like a wolverine. Always seems to make the right call and seems unflappable under pressure. He's able to do what's needed when it's needed, which is truly key at this level. Hence no look in for Williams at 12, nor anybody else atm.
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  12. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Well a decent first weekend. Wales were entertaining and played with a freshness that I didn't see coming. Its hard to know how much was Wales being excellent and how much was Scotland being dreadful.

    I thought Ireland were the better team and they deserved to win but they lacked invention and ambition, certainly they seemed happier trying to strangle the game rather than tried to open the game up and score tries. It was a bit dull really.

    England were England and played pretty well and didn't see to badly affected by all the injuries. Italy were spirited and played well until the final 10 minutes.

    I do think this is shaping up to be a close tournament, you'd be very brave to make any solid predictions on the back of this weekend. The only thing I'm going to say with any confidence is that I don't think we'll see a slam this year. I am looking forward to England v Wales up next because it promises open attacking rugby and tries aplenty.
  13. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Yep we are very lucky to have him. He seems like a top bloke as well.

    It'll be interesting to see if Gats sticks with the side when everyone is back from injury. I know his form hasn't been great but I'd love to see a fit and firing North play in a less Wales team, he'll score tries for fun.
  14. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    I think he needs to change the bench but not the starting XV. It would be a very bad message to send out to a team that performed superbly from I-XV that was picked on form to be dropped for 'favourites' feeling their way back from injury. We need genuine competition for places, IMO.

    I'm genuinely interested to see what role Biggar is seen as having in the light of Patchell's excellent performance in getting that backline moving. I can see him becoming an impact sub to provide extra control in the closing stages of a match rather than a starter, tbh. I love him as a player but he just isn't built for Gat-Turkball
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  15. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

    Sorry I was thinking about the latter stages of the tournament, not Saturday. Yh Gatland would be daft to change anything really for Saturday, maybe Bradley for Cory in the first XV but nowt else apart from the bench, having North and L Williams on the bench would give us some nice options if fit. :cool:

    I like the idea of Biggar being a super-sub to close out games, although I want to see more of Anscombe in the 10 shirt. I think he did well on Saturday, that spilt pass aside, I'd start him against Italy.
  16. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Ben Youngs is out for 4 months I see. Just another one to add to the list.
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  17. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    And yet you're still able to field an incredibly strong side with a ferociously powerful bench. I predict parity up to 60 and a late try or two to see you home.
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  18. flypanam

    flypanam Local oaf

    Isn't Care a better scrum half?
  19. gosub

    gosub ~#

    Same starting with North on the bench announced
  20. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Yeah. Good call, imo. Nobody from that starting XV deserved to lose the shirt
  21. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Yes for sure. It was less of a poor us moan (I think Wales have had the worst of the injuries tbh) and more of a large exhale at the way this season has gone and the amount of injuries piling up everywhere.

    Probably, he's certainly more dynamic. I think the way Jones has played Youngs from the start is because he trusts his kicking game from a defensive perspective whilst Care is better at opening up a tired defence in the last 20 (he single handedly murdered the aussies in the Autumn). Providing Care doesn't fall over in the first 10 minutes it shouldn't make that much difference.

    One thing I noticed from the Welsh match on Saturday was the tactic again of keeping the ball in play when executing clearing kicks. I wonder if they'll do the same this Saturday or whether there are any scars there still from Cardiff last year.
  22. flypanam

    flypanam Local oaf

    I've been trying to look at positives from our game in France, and the one that keeps coming back (and is mentioned quite a lot in the press) is that the win is comparable to NZed's win in Dublin in 2013, that last minute try by Crotty that buried us. Hansen said that that was the start of something special for the AB, cool comparison, which is fine but he said it retrospectively from the heights of winning a WC. From here the comparison just smacks of wishful thinking.

    The French defence was better, much better than in recent years, they seemed to be fitter too. Even so I don't think that can explain how me failed to make a line break. I know Joe has a plan and a structure to squeeze teams but the lack of penetration from the centres was worrying. Part of me thinks that Aki should be outside Henshaw, who seems to me to be an out and out 12.

    However a win in Paris and only our third since fucks knows when does mean something but I'm not sure what. I'd rather see that team minus JvdF (out for the rest of the season) start against Italy and see what they can do, rather that bring Carbery and Larmour in from the start. I'd also like to see John Ryan dropped and Andrew Porter on the bench as back up to Furlong.
  23. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Deserved winners, controlled the game for long periods, Sexton's kicking and general game management, France were a lot better than expected. Personally I think there were quite a few positives out there for you. An away win against France is never to be sniffed at and its certainly an improvement on your opening match last year.

    The only negatives were lacking a bit of creativity and ambition. A win is a win.
  24. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Joseph and Care into the XV for the hordes of Mordor. Have to say that the look of the XXIII fills me with dread. There are three Lions on the bench, ffs.
  25. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    The Jamie George thing is getting a bit much now. Probably the best hooker in Europe at the moment and can't get a sniff of the number 2 jersey.
  26. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    It's just that he can't match Dylan's on-field temperament or chivalry
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  27. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    I was whining about this to one of my mates and he pointed out that we have two on ours and one more who's available but not selected. Bloody English! :mad:
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  28. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Looks like the weather may play on part on Saturday, the forecast is not great. It'd be a shame if it does because from the opening weekend you could see that both Wales and England really wanted to throw the ball around and score tries. I really don't want to see an afternoon of knock-ons and re-set scrums.
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  29. bendeus

    bendeus Bellend Tagline Generator

    Couldn't agree more. Rain = slugfest and certain England victory. In other news, fuck off, Eddie
  30. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Shackle draggers can't help themselves. The only surprise is that Gatland hasn't chirped in with something equally enlightening. I'm glad the article mentions the Farrell incident as that was the first thing that went through my mind as I started reading it.

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