The unstoppable growth of Huawei's phones (and US legislation)

Discussion in 'mobiles, tablets and wearable tech' started by editor, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    They're taking over!

  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    what's the difference between a smartphone and a feature phone?
  3. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    It's not such an easy thing to distinguish these days but it could be described as a supercheap phone running a homebrew OS. But even that's not too accurate.
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

  5. 5t3IIa

    5t3IIa Registered User

    My dongle is huawei. Don't suppose dongle sales have leapt in the last quarter :hmm:
  6. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle

    I was surprised to see the size and variety of models in the Huawei range on sale in Berlin this year - much more than I've yet seen in the UK.

    That and the prominence of their promotion suggested they could well become a much bigger force in the market than we have seen so-far.
  7. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Just substitute 'kiss' with 'dongle'.

  8. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    Verge are raving about the new P9 and the reviewer prefers it to his iPhone and S7:


    Huawei P9 review: good design outshines dual cameras
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  9. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

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  10. craigxcraig

    craigxcraig Prefers 'cxc'

    When my samsung died, i ended up going for their P10 Lite and ive been very impressed, its a great phone :)
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  11. mack

    mack Fact Me Till I Fart

    I'd be tempted by these phones - but not with the software, pure android yes, emui no.
  12. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    Fuck Huawei, I want that $1000 phone! (not)
  13. Chz

    Chz Stark Raving Sane

    EMUI 5 is, while not stock Android (because no-one but Google has that any more), actually pretty good. I will concede that EMUI before version 5 was a nightmare.

    It's all fairly irrelevant anyhow. You can swap out 90% of the OS for Google or 3rd party apps. Pop on the launcher and a couple of other things and it's fairly stock.
  14. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

  15. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Most of that will have come from China, where consumers are now shunning Samsung and Apple for local vendors.

    A US ban by the Government won't help them with US sales due to how they implement Android. GCHQ has their eye on them too, so wouldn't be surprised if they get banned on providing Government/Military handsets here too.

    I know some Huawei devices don't play well with things like Android Auto, and recently VLC banned their app from being allowed to install on Huawei devices due to the aggressive management of the system breaking the app.

    So, there's those issues...
  16. editor

    editor Forked with electrons

    But to most people, they're getting a top notch handset that does all they want for a fraction of the big name flagships. In fact, some of their handsets are even better in some areas.
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  17. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    No doubt, mileage would vary, but for me Android Auto and VLC not working would be a no go, and if US Govt and GCHQ are investigating them, another reason I'd probably make a more educated choice. If that doesn't bother someone, then go for it. I'm for selling myself for free products, but not for a non fully functional aggressively managed custom Android OS.
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  18. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    They're a running joke in some comments on Chinese social media for whatever that's worth (not much), seen as crappy but in the usual tedious Apple/Microsoft fanboy war way.
  19. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  20. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Really? I'm glad I'm not going nuts. Spent an unproductive 15 mins trying to get VLC to work when the screen was of on my OHs Honor the other night.
  21. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

  22. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

  23. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Sounds exactly like the symptoms in the report. Something to do with how the vendor is force closing all apps that are not their own, once the phone is locked.
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  24. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    On Android the system can kill off all apps arbitrarily, which it does regularly to apps not on active display, in order to preserve resources. Manufacturers are free-ish to decide how to go about that. However as a developer you can mark certain services as 'foreground', with certain obligations like showing a non-dismissable notification. This ought to keep it alive longer, and this is what's normally done for media playback and so on. It sounds like Huawei have mis-designed their resource management so it doesn't respect this. I looked briefly at the VLC source code and they're doing what I expect.
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  25. Chz

    Chz Stark Raving Sane

    To be honest, YouTube used to do that on my Nexus 5. I thought it was normal that video-playing apps stopped sound when the screen was off.
    Who wants to use VLC to listen to music?

    Anyhow, on my Honor 8 I disabled the app killing globally and then re-introduced the ones that I know are bastard power-suckers when the screen is off.
  26. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I think Google specifically program YouTube to do it, it has the same behaviour on iPhone, after all it's a video platform, not a music platform.

    VLC is my go to music playing app for long music files, such as 2+ hour long mixes, as it does a good job of remembering where you left off even when you change to something else within VLC or reboot the phone. Not found another player at least on iOS that can manage this.
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  27. Humirax

    Humirax Guest

    My new tablet is Huawei. I've heard they do a wide range of quality electronics for good prices even including internet routers.
  28. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Yeah, use VLC for podcasts, mostly for this.
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  29. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

  30. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    They're also a giant company who have been producing enterprise and carrier grade equipment for a long time.

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