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did they always do the non-seeds by region btw? I thought there as at least a second seeding group last time.
They haven't always done it like this but last time it was done in a similar fashion:

Pot One - seeds (Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, Mexico and Spain)
Pot Two - Africa, South America, Oceania (Australia, Angola, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Togo, Tunisia, Ecuador, Paraguay)
Pot Three - All bar one non-seeded European teams (Croatia, Czech Republic, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine)
Pot Four - Asia and North, Central American and Caribbean (Iran, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Costa Rica, Trinidad & Tobago, United States)
Special pot - Serbia & Montenegro
 
I'm going to SA next year with another urbanite and a few mates. We're based in Cape Town so hopefully England will end up getting drawn to play a few games there....cant wait til tomorrow!
 
I'm going to SA next year with another urbanite and a few mates. We're based in Cape Town so hopefully England will end up getting drawn to play a few games there....cant wait til tomorrow!

Hope you have a good one. You should do. I've always had a great time with England away.

<edit> Make sure you leave that horrible orange shirt at home though! :p
 
Cheers :) It's a bit wierd cos we've got tickets to games, but don't know who yet. It's team A1 v B2 etc - I think we have a 3 in 7 chance of getting England in Cape Town, or so my mate reckons. Either way, we're going cos we want to see other teams as well, but it would be wicked to get England too.

I think there'll definitely be a few Luton shirts in the suitcase - probably not the easyjet one though, given I don't own it! We do need a new flag though...
 
'Not having a flag' is the new 'having a flag'. :p

Ours got on telly repeatedly at Portugal 04 cos it was right behind the goal for Larsson's diving header against someone.
 
so who do we want? N.Z., Algeria, Switzerland for me. Linked with a group with Germany, the DPRK, Cameroon and Slovakia :D

Nightmare? Ivory Coast, Portugal, Oz.
 
He could hardly say we had a shit team out both times :confused:

Exactly.

So far, while Capello has done a great job sorting out the shambles that the team was when he inherited it, the team has yet to show that it can live with the very best.

Friendly results since Capello took charge, with those against FIFA world rankings top 8 in bold:

Switzerland Wembley Stadium, London 6 Feb 2008 2–1
France Stade de France, Paris 26 Mar 2008 0–1
United States Wembley Stadium, London 28 May 2008 2–0
Trinidad & Tobago Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port of Spain 1 June 2008 3–0
Czech Republic Wembley Stadium, London 20 August 2008 2–2
Germany Olympiastadion, Berlin 19 November 2008 2–1
Spain Estadio Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán, Seville 11 February 2009 0–2
Slovakia Wembley Stadium, London 28 March 2009 4–0
Netherlands Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam 12 August 2009 2–2
Slovenia Wembley Stadium, London 5 September 2009 2–1
Brazil Khalifa International Stadium, Doha 14 November 2009 0–1

P5 W1 D1 L3. Not particularly impressive, albeit all away or on neutral territory.

To my mind, we lack a reliable goalkeeper, a second top-class centre back to partner Terry and a top-notch forward to complement Rooney who can score regularly himself. And we lack strength in depth in a number of areas, always vital when you're playing in a tournament of this nature.

My prediction is that we'll be out in the quarter finals again. I hope I'm wrong.
 
To my mind, we lack a reliable goalkeeper, a second top-class centre back to partner Terry and a top-notch forward to complement Rooney who can score regularly himself. And we lack strength in depth in a number of areas, always vital when you're playing in a tournament of this nature.
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I pretty much agree with all of that. Ferdinand is beginning to look very suspect, he's either been injured or shit. Gerrard has been injured on and off a lot as well.

The only thing that gives me hope is Italy won last time out and they wernt that great.
 
I'm waiting to see who's fit, but I think both Defoe and Carlton Cole can easily be that complement to Rooney.

As to those friendlies against the top sides - don't forget that two of those three that we lost were played with more or less second choice teams out.
 
France Stade de France, Paris 26 Mar 2008 0–1
Germany Olympiastadion, Berlin 19 November 2008 2–1
Spain Estadio Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán, Seville 11 February 2009 0–2
Netherlands Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam 12 August 2009 2–2
Brazil Khalifa International Stadium, Doha 14 November 2009 0–1

P5 W1 D1 L3. Not particularly impressive, albeit all away or on neutral territory.

Not only that, but we played the best two of those teams with line-ups that were a long way from our first 11. Of the other games, against the French Capello hadn´t been in charge very long, and we outplayed both the Germans and the Dutch.

Brazil and Spain also happen to be the best two sides in the world at the moment, having your second team lose to them is no shame.

To my mind, we lack a reliable goalkeeper, a second top-class centre back to partner Terry and a top-notch forward to complement Rooney who can score regularly himself. And we lack strength in depth in a number of areas, always vital when you're playing in a tournament of this nature.

My prediction is that we'll be out in the quarter finals again. I hope I'm wrong.

The key to any world cup campaign, for any team, is having your world class players fit. Any of the seeds can put out 11 footballers who are very good and capable of doing a job for a decent coach.

Strength in depth in tournaments is a myth, what you need is a shitload of luck with injuries. Nobodies reserves are gonna win them the tournament. Not even Brazil´s or Spain´s. If 2 of Iniesta, Xavi, Villa and Torres don´t make it on the plane, I don´t fancy Spain´s chances. Fuck knows where Brazil´s goals will come from if they don´t get to bring Luis Fabiano.

None of the winners of the previous 3 world cups had serious injury problems to contend, and all of them were able to field their best players for most of the tournament.

This, "strength in depth" wins tournaments is backed up by sod all reality. You need 8 good players, 3 exceptional players and for the last 3 to avoid getting their ankles sawn in half by some clumsy centre-half in May.

Fingers crossed Ferdinand gets back to the player he was last season. And that Rob Green can step up (someone has to, and they´re only going to do if they get a decent shot at it). But it´s not the end of the world if they don´t. Far more important that Gerrard and Rooney steer clear of the Roy Keanes and Tiny Taylors of this world...

(even based on the results above, we´re a fair shout for the semis. Outplayed 2 seeds, only lost to the top 2)
 
There's an article in the Guardian with Capello discussing the threat of African teams.

I'm pretty sure it's standard practice in the run up to World Cup but given he's said he'd like to play an African team in one of the warm-up friendlies, who are the likely candidates.

It will probably be one of this lot (aside from the teams that have qualified, obviously...).

Has it ever been the case that teams drawn together in the WC play each other in a friendly beforehand, or is that just not done?
 
I just worked out a best and worse case:

Best:Serbia, NZ, Chile
Worst: Portugal/France, Australia, Ivory coast.

I dunno. The draw in 1998 was in between tough and easy. We played ok in that tournament and that knockout game with argentina was actually quite good until beckham got sent off.

2002 was very tough and we somehow scraped through it but didn't always play that well.

But 2006 was a piss-easy draw and we still played shite :D
 
England draw Australia, Slovakia and Cameroon.

In the latest practise. How many times do you really need to practise putting your hand in a bag?
 
How many times do you really need to practise putting your hand in a bag?

Gotta know how quickly a ball loses it's heat. Wouldnt want the wrong teams to be drawn together. :hmm:

Germany always seem to get a freebie of a group. :mad:
 
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