The ultimate urban challenge-find something good about Thatcher :D

[Idris2002]

Didn't get blown up by the ira . Who would still be crowing about it now if they had suceeded .

And it would have been open season on every Irish person in Britain if they had.

 

[Idris2002]

made them realise that if they didn't agree to power sharing they'd be fucked.

Have they realised that, though? The collapse of the pro-agreement unionist centre, and the rise of the DUP to dominance within unionism suggests they haven't.

 

[revol68]

Have they realised that, though? The collapse of the pro-agreement unionist centre, and the rise of the DUP to dominance within unionism suggests they haven't.

just wait the DUP will form a power sharing executive, they'll hold it out but ultimately the reality will force them.

And if Big Ian dies soon Robinson will fall over himself to get first minister.

 

[Patty]

She helped to make Kinnock look like what he really was. A spineless and incompitent no hoper . Oh, and she made an exelent "Spitting Image" puppet.

 

[Patty]

She helped to make Kinnock look like what he really was. A spineless and incompitent no hoper . Oh, and she made an exelent "Spitting Image" puppet.

 

[Patty]

oops!

 

[STFC]

First female leader of the Conservative Party
First female Prime Minister
Longest serving Prime Minister of the twentieth century
Led the country out of the economic depression of the 1970s
Kicked the Argies out of the Falkland Islands
Contributed to the death of Communism and the end of the cold war
Weakened the trade unions
Allowed people to buy their homes

 

[likesfish]

did for the argentine junta big stylee
helped end the cold war war on the right side

 

[neilh]

well, s'pose as a vegan i should say getting rid of free milk in schools

but fuck it, i aint gonna

 

[gilhyle]

Some people on this thread are trying too hard.

 

[Pickman's model]

After all the recent anti maggie threads, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to say something positive about Maggie T.

There's gotta be something

Anyone?

she made fucking certain that no one else from grantham will ever become prime minister.

 

[Pickman's model]

Led the country out of the economic depression of the 1970s

straight into the economic depression of the 1980s. what a fucking coup!

 

[TAE]

Wasn't she an essential ingredient of Spitting Image?

 

[ViolentPanda]

The ultimate urban challenge-find something good about Thatcher
She has provided a corporeal form for a demon and not charged it rent.

 

[Combustible]

The Channel Tunnel, wonderful piece of engineering.

Didn't she want it to be a car tunnel or something. That would have been a nightmare.

 

[Paul Marsh]

She helped ensure that Britain maintained its proud record of never having had a ginger Prime Minister?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Its a stretch, but it's true that no one has to work down a mine in this country any more. Not a nice job.

 

[mrtambourineman]

She helped ensure that Britain maintained its proud record of never having had a ginger Prime Minister?

LOL I often wonder what sort of prime minister he'd have made. He's actually a generation younger than maggie, and came damn close in 92. I reckon he should have stayed on and given it another go.

Anyway thats all pure speculation.

 

[Paul Marsh]

Given how keen he is today on Mr Blair, I think we can safely assume he would have been just as bad as phony Tony.

Whilst kinnock was willing to take on those on the left/entryist faction of the Labour party, he has never had the balls to take on new Labour. One speech you won't hear from him

"And you end in the absurdity of a Labour government, a Labour government, going into an illegal war because the President of the United States asks them to........."

 

[mrtambourineman]

Given how keen he is today on Mr Blair, I think we can safely assume he would have been just as bad as phony Tony.

Maybe he would changed in power. But for me he fell perfectly between the two stools of 'old' and 'new' Labour.

As do I.

 

[audiotech]

First female leader of the Conservative Party

She was.

First female Prime Minister

She would be being the first female leader.

Longest serving Prime Minister of the twentieth century

Bully for her.

Led the country out of the economic depression of the 1970s

Pickman's model answered that one.

Kicked the Argies out of the Falkland Islands

Aye, but they've won the world cup since.

Contributed to the death of Communism and the end of the cold war

According to the Chinese communism still exists.

Weakened the trade unions

It appears so.

Allowed people to buy their homes

There were 80,000 homes repossessed in 1991, with some being resold at 30 per cent below their value.

..

 

[STFC]

According to the Chinese communism still exists.

Oh yes, it's Communism in its purest form.

 

[Chuck Wilson]

How did Thatcher contribute to the death of Communism and the end of the cold war?

 

[STFC]

How did Thatcher contribute to the death of Communism and the end of the cold war?

From Wikipedia (apologies for the C+P):

In the Cold War Mrs Thatcher supported Ronald Reagan's policies of deterrence against the Soviets. This contrasted with the policy of détente which the West had pursued during the 1970s, and caused friction with allies still wedded to the idea of détente. US forces were permitted by Mrs. Thatcher to station nuclear cruise missiles at British bases, arousing mass protests by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. However, she later was the first Western leader to respond warmly to the rise of reformist Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, declaring that she liked him and describing him as "a man we can do business with" after a meeting in 1985, three months before he came to power. This was a start of a move by the West back to a new détente with the USSR under Gorbachev's leadership which coincided with the final erosion of Soviet power prior to the turbulence of 1991 and the collapse of the Union. Thatcher outlasted the Cold War, which ended in 1989, and voices who share her views on it credit her with a part in the West's victory, by both the deterrence and détente postures.

 

[sleaterkinney]

straight into the economic depression of the 1980s. what a fucking coup!

Exactly, Boom and bust is not good economics.

 

[Chuck Wilson]

From Wikipedia (apologies for the C+P):

So she supported 'detterence' by allowing missiles to be stationed here , but I am not that this had any affect on the end of the Soviet union.
She said Gorbachov was someone she could do business with , but again I am ot sure sure how that contributed to the demise of the Soviet Union.

The West' ie USA and UK reverted back to detente obviously inspired by the 'success' of detterrence and according to Wikkipedia this concided with the end of the Soviet Union.

I am still struggling for cause and effect here.

 

[cathal marcs]

I think the inherent structure of the SU was unsustainable she just happened to be in the right place at the right time if you ask me.

So she had good sence of timing I suppose.

 

[Chuck Wilson]

I think the inherent structure of the SU was unsustainable she just happened to be in the right place at the right time if you ask me.

So she had good sence of timing I suppose.

(Wo) man make history but not in circumstances etc??

 

[likesfish]

guess th su leaders could'nt do a falklands because the risks were to high and could'nt threaten the west as hitler did over chezlavakia excuse spelling.
so unable to use military might to get there own way the soivet union was bound to collapse

 

[cathal marcs]

guess th su leaders could'nt do a falklands because the risks were to high and could'nt threaten the west as hitler did over chezlavakia excuse spelling.
so unable to use military might to get there own way the soivet union was bound to collapse

The internal oppression and social imperialism was bound to face resistance not neccessarily due to a percieved lack military aggression.