The Times: "Brixton: the depressing symbol of Britain's multicultural failure"

[tbaldwin]

1. Did you ask every person by turn what their class was, or is this simply your prejudice.

2. You do realise that this is an utterly moronic thing to say, do you not? As Crispy says, are you going to list your 'ethnic' friends now?

1 it was easy to judge them as they were all standing around and talking at the top of their voices.

2 No i didnt realise that.....Perhaps i need to be re-educated.

I wont list all my effnic friends for you but i will just mention some of my best friends aernt Black.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

2 No i didnt realise that.....Perhaps i need to be re-educated.

Yes, perhaps you do.

 

[ashie259]

Never been to Fujiyama, but as far as the Academy goes, maybe it's more down to the group that's playing that evening that attracts the people, rather than any particular "racial divide" enforced by some kind of demographic?

Absolutely. I was only saying this to underline what someone said earlier about people of different cultural backgrounds choosing to spend their time in different ways.

 

[tbaldwin]

Yes, perhaps you do.

You really hate the idea of diversity dont you?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You really hate the idea of diversity dont you?

Another moronic comment. Keep em coming.

I don't hate the idea of diversity at all. I do, however, hate the idea that people should be judged by the colour of their friends' skin.

 

[toblerone3]

I just read the article again and its 95% rubbish. The true bit is the relative lack of integration in Brixton .....but relative compared to where?

 

[Crispy]

True. But what makes areas like Brixton different is the large number of people who moved in activelly wanting to live in a racially diverse area.

I can honestly say I've never met anyone who matches that description.

 

[ajdown]

The true bit is the relative lack of integration in Brixton

I assume that you are passing that judgement on all races, cultures, classes and ethnicities - and not just "damn whitey" not integrating again.

 

[toblerone3]

I assume that you are passing that judgement on all races, cultures, classes and ethnicities - and not just "damn whitey" not integrating again.

Yes fences up on all sides.

 

[teuchter]

I can honestly say I've never met anyone who matches that description.

I have, actually.

I certainly can think of several people for whom the cultural diversity was at least a contributing factor in drawing them to/keeping them in Brixton.

I'm sure people are also drawn to other parts of London for similar reasons though.

 

[Winot]

I have, actually.

I certainly can think of several people for whom the cultural diversity was at least a contributing factor in drawing them to/keeping them in Brixton.

I'm sure people are also drawn to other parts of London for similar reasons though.

Or to put it another way - if you delibrately avoid living in an area of cultural diversity you are more likely to be a twat. I'd rather live amongst people who fall outside that category (although they might of course fall in other less savoury categories).

If that makes sense.

 

[toblerone3]

Or to put it another way - if you delibrately avoid living in an area of cultural diversity you are more likely to be a twat. I'd rather live amongst people who fall outside that category (although they might of course fall in other less savoury categories).

If that makes sense.

Outside the category of the deliberate avoiders = inside the category of people who choose to live in Brixton.

 

[Crispy]

Outside the category of the deliberate avoiders = inside the category of people who choose to live in Brixton.

I could draw a venn diagram...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I could draw a venn diagram...

I haven't seen one of your diagrams for ages

 

[Belushi]

I haven't seen one of your diagrams for ages

I've missed them too! C'mon Crispy!

 

[quimcunx]

I could draw a venn diagram...

I love venn diagrams.

 

[Crispy]

I'm feeling generous

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I wonder if Crispy asks people if they want to come and see his venn diagrams when he's trying to pull

 

[Crispy]

I wonder if Crispy asks people if they want to come and see his venn diagrams when he's trying to pull

It's nearly that bad.

This post led directly to getting together with Sparrow.

Albert -> Pint ?
I'll let you play with my gyroscope

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's nearly that bad.

This post led directly to getting together with Sparrow.

Ah, how sweet

I don't know what a gyroscope is so you could have probably tempted me

Did Sparrow know?

 

[jayeola]

- I have never seen a black person shopping in tescos
- I have never seen a black person at the Academy
- I have never seen black people in "white restaurants"
- I have never seen white people in "black restaurants"

=> I have no close black friends

After reading the article in the OP, I have a strong feeling which of the above is applicable

 

[toblerone3]

What I'm also not clear about is how exactly the "less savoury" categories intersect with the sets of those who choose to avoid living in Brixton and those that avoid not living in Brixton.

 

[toblerone3]

I'm feeling generous

 

[Crispy]

Well, venn diagrams are crap at showing multiple relationships, unfortunately

And I think I'd need another few spatial dimensions to fit ajdown in.

 

[kyser_soze]

This is all your fault crispy. You know that don't you?

 

[Crispy]

This is all your fault crispy. You know that don't you?

Subconsciously, yes. But I keep it repressed and it only haunts my dreams.

 

[tbaldwin]

Or to put it another way - if you delibrately avoid living in an area of cultural diversity you are more likely to be a twat. I'd rather live amongst people who fall outside that category (although they might of course fall in other less savoury categories).

If that makes sense.

Bit judgemental? A lot of people prefer what is familiar to them,which is quite natural. Cos you prefer to mix with different cultures does that make you automatically a better person than an Indian living in Southall or a White person living in Southend?
I don't think so.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Well, venn diagrams are crap at showing multiple relationships, unfortunately

And I think I'd need another few spatial dimensions to fit ajdown in.

I've had a long weekend and I've come back to Urban to find I agree with ajdown.

I think it's going to be an odd week.

 

[quimcunx]

Well, venn diagrams are crap at showing multiple relationships, unfortunately

And I think I'd need another few spatial dimensions to fit ajdown in.

It's a lovely venn diagram, crisps: don't you let them put you down!

I've been quite pleasantly surprised by him on this thread. Did I miss something?


Also when I moved to Brixton when I was a young slip of a lass its cultural mix was a bit of pull for me. Mostly it was because it was far away from where I had been, one of the few zone 2 places I'd been to before, it was convenient for work and closer to a boyfriend of the time. But also because when I had been clubbing here before I remembered there were lots of pretty boys.