The smoking ban has killed our night!
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There's no need to be supercilious. 
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
shurely the need to go to a pub would suggest that an addiction of a different kind gripped you and therefore as it's still socailly acceptable at present you feel no guilt for having such a socially acceptable addiction.... likeing beer...editor said:
but one day it will no longer be acceptable and then one will hope you'd be so good as to fall on your won sword as you are expecting smokers to do here..
It affected our night at Corsica Studios a bit, although that venue has an outdoor bit anyway. It wasn't too bad, but I know that if the smoking ban wasn't in place, those people would be inside having a fag listening to the music.
You get momentum in clubs with crowds and the like, and this is pulling it apart at the moment. I think it'll correct itself soon - it's only 3 months in, and I read somewhere that it took Ireland sometime to get things back to normal.
You get momentum in clubs with crowds and the like, and this is pulling it apart at the moment. I think it'll correct itself soon - it's only 3 months in, and I read somewhere that it took Ireland sometime to get things back to normal.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Bleep said:
I'm not long back from Ireland - a trip that included more than a few racous nights out. Other than in places with no room for any at all, the level of smoking provision there is very, very different & even the very worst outdoor spaces were way ahead of even the very best I've seen here. No comparison at all.
editor
hiraethified
Where have I said smokers should feel guilty? Why should I feel "guilty" for having a pint? But if drinking was banned I sure as hell wouldn't abandon watching bands and socialising and stay at home on my own with a can instead. In fact, I've been to the pub loads of time and not drank. It's not that hard.GarfieldLeChat said:
So what the fuck are you on about Garf?
No, in fact, don't bother replying. I'm not in the mood for an afternoon of your needlessly aggressive scattergun personal attacks and I can't be arsed to entertain your flights of argumentative fancy.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
No doubt, in time there will be a tendency towards those venues which have organised good provision outside; away from those which don't bother.
Hopefully the powers that be will also stop trying to ban smoking in public places, coz that's just going too far!! Outside should be fine.
Drinking outside and awnings should also be fine. I am still stunned that they are not!
Hopefully the powers that be will also stop trying to ban smoking in public places, coz that's just going too far!! Outside should be fine.
Drinking outside and awnings should also be fine. I am still stunned that they are not!
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Gmarthews said:
I strongly disagree with stuff being in city centres or at least in big cities anyway. people should have the opportunity to go out in their own locale and anyway concentrating all tyhe bars and clubs in one area leads to a lot of problems. I offer you Guildford and Richmond as examples.
The other bit is common sense BUT in me-Me-ME Britain, people on the housing ladder fast track think they can but a new-build flat next to an existing business and then try and close it down. And councillors listen to them as sometimes they think it's a vote winner.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
but you will spread baseless ad homeins about the place in your response... good good...editor said:
I'm on about the rank hypocrasy of the hirearchy of drug use and that you seem to be unable to equate your accepted drug use ie goign to a pub with with your deemed unaccepted drug use ie smoking...
Seems you are attempting to create some distintion or subset of drug use for what ever reason.
No need for your to get shitty or arsey or make up a load of shit that i'm supposedly going to say for pointing out that there is an obvious descrpency in what you have said...
but off you trot on your own flight of whimsey ... may you land where ti takes you...
The smoking ban is killing socialising for us poor addicts fulll stop. Fine, we be good boys & girls & do what nanny tells us & go outside. By the time we get back in & sit down again (if we still have a chair) the conversation has moved on without us, & it's a fight to turn an evening back into a social event.
The fightback has started tho, rebellion is afoot. I've heard numerous reports of pubs returning to smoking dens and "smoker's lock-ins" where people who share the same habit can indulge in a pint & a smoke.
The fightback has started tho, rebellion is afoot. I've heard numerous reports of pubs returning to smoking dens and "smoker's lock-ins" where people who share the same habit can indulge in a pint & a smoke.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Exposure to second-hand smoke for people working in bars and clubs has dropped by 95% since July 1's ban on indoor smoking in England. In the first study to examine the health and business impacts of the smoking ban, researchers also found that the effect on trade had been minimal, despite the predictions of some in the hospitality industry.
The research was led by scientists at the Tobacco Control Collaborating Centre in Warwick. They found that non-smoking workers in the hospitality industry had only a quarter of the cotinine - a by-product of nicotine and an indicator of tobacco smoke exposure - in their saliva in August compared with what they had in June. They said that workers' exposure prior to the ban was equivalent to 190 cigarettes a year, which dropped to the equivalent of 44 cigarettes afterwards
Nuff said really, imo. If smoking didn't demonstrably cause serious harm to others in the vicinity, then smokers might have a case but the cigs do unfortunately and I'm all for the ban. Sorry to hear about the problems with the club night like, but hopefully things will turn around over time?
The research was led by scientists at the Tobacco Control Collaborating Centre in Warwick. They found that non-smoking workers in the hospitality industry had only a quarter of the cotinine - a by-product of nicotine and an indicator of tobacco smoke exposure - in their saliva in August compared with what they had in June. They said that workers' exposure prior to the ban was equivalent to 190 cigarettes a year, which dropped to the equivalent of 44 cigarettes afterwards
Nuff said really, imo. If smoking didn't demonstrably cause serious harm to others in the vicinity, then smokers might have a case but the cigs do unfortunately and I'm all for the ban. Sorry to hear about the problems with the club night like, but hopefully things will turn around over time?
Gmart
Well-Known Member
editor said:
Well it's not is it!
Some still argue against this ban, saying that there should be a room set aside for this habit where the smokers would clean the room up after them (to save on the need for the workers to do it.)
Despite the obvious logistics of this solution (ie who clears up? The people at the end of the night? Who polices it? What about someone who needs to leave quickly? etc.), I would like to say that I'm really happy this ban has happened. Some people are very sensitive to smoke, and harm has been proved. While the unregulated market led to only smokers being out, thus market failure and the need for a system.
Basic economic theory even for a liberal such as myself.
Meanwhile it has forced many places to open up an outside which has added another dimension to going out.
Once we sort out the drinking outside and the shelter problems we might even find ourselves with MORE of a social life!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
editor said:
The usual sign for the start of a lock-in is when the staff take out the ash trays & light-up themselves. All staff have to do their clearing-up & be off shift before this happens & any who want to leave can go. Same for any non-smokers who are welcome too - although I don't see many scurrying away in disgust.
twisted said:
Wine Street, central Swansea, Friday night!! Blimey O' Riley!!!
Reminded me of Hogarth prints ....
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The punters at Drop Beats Not Bombs here in Birmingham the other month seemed to have the right idea.
Just ignore the fucking ban
Just ignore the fucking ban
Gmart
Well-Known Member
The ban is a good thing and I hope it stays. I know many people who are now able to go to the pub without being overwhelmed by smoke from cigarettes.
It's amazing that smokers seem to feel that smoking in the faces of non-smokers is perfectly alright!
Well it's not! And I'm glad that the government has introduced this ban because the previous situation was intolerable for the majority who DON'T smoke!
It's amazing that smokers seem to feel that smoking in the faces of non-smokers is perfectly alright!
Well it's not! And I'm glad that the government has introduced this ban because the previous situation was intolerable for the majority who DON'T smoke!
subversplat
writer of wrongs
OK... But what does this have to do with a music event?Gmarthews said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
which of course means you rights are more imperical than there's oh the hypocracy .... the melodrama ... grow a spine really...Gmarthews said:
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