The Rocky Horror Picture Show: Crap/ Not Crap
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electrogirl said:
That's all fine, but RHPS is a SHIT example of the genre. And are you telling me it's NOT tongue in cheek?
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
Juice Terry said:Pops back onto thread to point out that even though I dislike them all, The Sound of Music, Grease and Dirty Dancing are made to look like wonderful shining beacons of joy when compared to the utter utter toss which is TRHPS.
Supertramp are just fucking great anyway they even had their very own hippy version of Bez.
Oh, arse, now I don't know what's worse, Dirty Dancing or the Sound of Music.
(Supertramp made some great tunes!!!)
electrogirl said:
Why do you assume it be driven by snobbery?
For me it's the whole suspension of belief thing that makes most musicals so inaccessible for me. There have been one or two exceptions (musicals that have moved me in some way) ..but by and large, musicals just seem to fall between having anything worthwhile to say or being musically innovative or being funny.
It ain't snobbery, trust me.
Hollis said:I've always thought the Rocky Horror Show to be shit.. the one thing I can think of worse than it is The Blues Brothers.
Seconded
No fancy explanations here, RHPS is just shit, plain and simple. Everything about that kind of student wank irks me.
Oliver! now there's a musical.
I've never seen it. But, as Marvin would say, it sounds awful.
I generally despise musicals. The only good one is the original Charlie and the Chocolate factory film.
electrogirl said:
It's nothing to do with snobbery. I enjoy some hugely trashy films. I just find musicals irritating and jarrying.
Reno
The In Kraut
Modern audiences unfortunately have become unused to the narrative shifts and artificial stylisation of film musicals. They lack the imagination necessary to suspend their disbelief during the musical numbers when characters sing and dance the thoughts they are unable to say out loud, a concept which I always found strangely moving.
tiki
Penelope Keiths Daughter
What's all the hate for the sound of music? Generally not keen on musicals but will sit in fromt of the sound of music and happily tap along with my foot for 2 hours.
Also went to the glass house in Austria where they sang the I am 16 going on 17 ditty.
Rocky Horror is OK, not great, not bad, just OK, OK!
Also went to the glass house in Austria where they sang the I am 16 going on 17 ditty.
Rocky Horror is OK, not great, not bad, just OK, OK!
IU have never managed to sit through the Sound of Music, but I will concede that Doe, A Deer is a very good song for teaching kindergarten-level ESL...
subversplat
writer of wrongs
I <3 musicals.
Rocky Horror is OK
Rocky Horror is OK
Johnny Canuck3
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Dubversion said:
It came out in 1975. In 1975, it was outrageous; your eyes popped as you watched it unfold. When it was first released, it was totally unknown in most places, so there was no advance warning what was to come.
The next year, I was in San Diego, and I saw the lineup for one of those midnight madness dressup showings, for the first time. It was great fun.
The movie is one of those things that captures perfectly some of the sentiment of its time. The sixties had been all peace and love, drugs for enlightenment, sex for communion.
The seventies were veering into excess, sensation, sex for sex, drugs for fun, the time of Quaaludes. What Woodstock the movie is for the sixties, Rocky Horror is for the seventies.
It would be a dumb movie if it got made today, but it didn't.
I owned the soundtrack, and saw the movie a few times. I haven't watched it for years, and I would't go out of my way to do so, just like I'm not eager to watch Woodstock again. Nevertheless, that doesn't detract from the impact of either film, or their places in recent social history.
Johnny Canuck3
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Dubversion said:neither of those two monstrosities is fun
They were when they came out.
What's the point of sitting here thirty years later and judging these things by today's standards?"
Musicals, spectacles where characters dance and sing accompanied by music, are possibly the oldest form of popular entertainment. Tragedy and comedy were born from musical dramas.
And no, they were not "created for the masses as an alternative to the intimidating and high brow opera", the opposite is much more likely. Popular art is usually copied and it is a misconception to think that it happens the other way round. In fact for many "serious" artists achieving the form of popular art is their highest aspiration.
I used to like the Rocky Horror Picture Show but it so familiar to me that I no longer think about it. It was a really impressive and unusual thing in the environment where I grew up.
And no, they were not "created for the masses as an alternative to the intimidating and high brow opera", the opposite is much more likely. Popular art is usually copied and it is a misconception to think that it happens the other way round. In fact for many "serious" artists achieving the form of popular art is their highest aspiration.
I used to like the Rocky Horror Picture Show but it so familiar to me that I no longer think about it. It was a really impressive and unusual thing in the environment where I grew up.
Looby
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Reno said:
I love musicals and I think that is because I am completely able to suspend my disbelief and also if I like a film I will (generally) always like it.
I have never grown out of Grease or Dirty Dancing because I have such deep affection for them. When I watch them it's not just a nostalgia thing though, I really enjoy them.
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