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The River Thames - photos and stories

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Ponyutd, May 20, 2014.

  1. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Not offhand and all my books are bagged up at the moment whilst painting/decorating. I'm pretty sure it's in a book anyway, otherwise I've just seen it so many times on the internet, I just assume I have it :D:oops:

    Actually, I've got a feeling I may know which one it is, but I've temporarily forgotten name. Will have to go into Amazon and see if I bought it there
     
  2. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

  3. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    Thanks Minnie!
     
  4. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    Tiny shard/sherd of pottery, only inch and a half across.
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    Anyone have any thoughts on this? Pottery, and hollow.
    From the Thames Yesterday.
     
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  5. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Pilgrim flask? (Says she having googled and knowing nothing about it.)
     
  6. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    Possibly, but I can't see any obvious religious iconography on it. I'd definitely take that to the Museum of London and let them have a look at it.
     
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  7. Tankus

    Tankus living someone else's dream.

    Me too ...I knows squat .....but I like that !...worth a visit just to satisfy curiosity
     
  8. Epona

    Epona I am Hououin Kyouma

    The first image is stoneware, probably salt glaze, I would guess 17thC, (as it looks like a date stamp on it late 17th Century so I'm not doing rocket science or anything!) and probably part of a beer jug or similar? - iirc beer jugs and the like were often stamped with a date, but it is not really my era so I can't be 100% certain on anything more certain about its origins. Certainly there was a lot of salt-glaze stoneware being produced around that era, in England (Staffordshire for example) and other places in Northern Europe.
     
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  9. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    Thanks Epona, the date is 1603. Would have loved to have the rest of it!
     
  10. Epona

    Epona I am Hououin Kyouma

    Ah OK, I was reading it as 1693 :facepalm:
     
  11. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Its not a river as it is tidal up until teddington. London should be called london on sea.
     
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  12. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    I've opened the bridge, and been in its counterweight rooms when it has opened. A bit frightening.
     
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  13. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Peter Ackroyd's London A Biography is a fun book, but my favourite chapter is the opening one, where he paints a picture of London rising up from the sea... its a poetic idea but one i really like and think of on grey days

    The whole first chapter is up here http://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/aug/29/firstchapters.highereducation

    an extract:
    "In the beginning was the sea. There was once a music-hall song entitled 'Why Can't We Have the Sea in London?', but the question is redundant; the site of the capital, fifty million years before, was covered by great waters.

    The waters have not wholly departed, even yet, and there is evidence of their life in the weathered stones of London. The Portland stone of the Customs House and St Pancras Old Church has a diagonal bedding which reflects the currents of the ocean; there are ancient oyster shells within the texture of Mansion House and the British Museum. Seaweed can still be seen in the greyish marble of Waterloo Station, and the force of hurricanes may be detected in the 'chatter-marked' stone of pedestrian subways. In the fabric of Waterloo Bridge, the bed of the Upper Jurassic Sea can also be observed. The tides and storms are still all around us, therefore, and as Shelley wrote of London 'that great sea ... still howls on for more.'
     
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  14. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    It's certainly not a sea either. Estuary perhaps, though it is a bit of a stretch to call it even that once you reach Greenwich.
     
  15. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Well it is technically an estuary because it is inland but still tidal up until teddington though there are some fresh water fish a little before then.
     
  16. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Isn't an estuary part of a river?
     
  17. There's fresh water fish much further down than Teddington, most are fine in brackish water. Staines used to be the highest tidal point until the canalisation of the Thames.

    And OU is correct, an estuary is part of a river.

    It is possible for a river to extend out in to the sea.
     
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  18. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    It's the transitional point of the river leading into the sea.
    When a river becomes tidal and behaves like the sea but is still inland.
     
  19. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    It looks like a river, so it is a river :p
     

  20. Could that be a clay pipe? Shitloads of them in the Thames.
     
  21. Technically it's a body of water that is subject to both maritime and riverine forces.
     
  22. Ponyutd

    Ponyutd Greebo likes this....r.i.p.

    No @Banhof Strasse, it's a small pot. I have a feeling it maybe an Asian offering to one of their gods.
     
  23. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    The London Delta (Blues)
     
  24. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    That's what I said diddle I?
    Apart from I don't think it has to be anymore river-like beyond being inland. An estuary can be affected by river and sea but stops being an estuary when it stops being tidal, and when it stops being inland at the other end. It can stop being affected by the river end (as the thames does) long before it becomes the sea.
     
  25. No. The river affects it out to sea; look at it from the air and you'll see a brown slick heading out to sea, that's the river sediment which is a riverine effect.
     
  26. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    I will have to bow to your greater knowledge, as all I am only going on is what was told to me by the port of london (if I recall correctly) for a TV show (don't worry, that specific point was not in the show, just that it was tidal up until Teddington etc), though the definition of an estuary in general still stands.
     
  27. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    It's a dirty old river, definitely!
     
  28. Must it keep rolling though?
     
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  29. MrSki

    MrSki Who am I to say you're wrong

    It certainly smells like a river.
     
  30. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    It's not actually.
     
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