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The Prisoner remake

coccinelle said:
The original series was a pile of bollox, mind you. I remember the excitement before it was first shown in the 60s, then the slow, dawning realization that it was crap and getting crapper. No-one at our school bothered to watch it until the final episode.
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It went downhill after they introduced the black smoke monster and then never explained why th-

oh wait, sorry that was Lost.

Are we saying there's a pattern to TV series?

OMG
 
Visiting The Village was better than watching the couple of episodes of the original series that I've seen. I've still got the box set to get round to watching.

Be interested in seeing a bit of this too.
 
When is it on the telly then. Looks ok but a bit hollywood. I don't like the 6.
I was a big prisoner fan but thought the end was a bit lame.
 
just seen the first two. there are problems with it, but it's much better than i thought it would be, keeps much of the spirit of the original without trying simply to copy it. James Caviezel and Ian McKellen are both very good.
 
belboid said:
just download it



oddest comment of the day. Whatever else it was, lame it wasn't
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It felt like it all went right out the window. The whole feel of the show was ruined for me, especially with the 'modern' music.
Instead of an end there was just a load of hippy 60s bollocks. It all felt like a massive cop out.
Ha ha ha - I'm number one on drugs or something. etc
 
AS never likes anything though. You cuss everything. If God himself came down with an epic sci fi series on a memory stick that he and his celestial cronies had made AS would still diss it.
 
DotCommunist said:
AS never likes anything though. You cuss everything. If God himself came down with an epic sci fi series on a memory stick that he and his celestial cronies had made AS would still diss it.
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YOu on the other hand would recommend muppets in space just because it has 'space' in the title.

The happiness patrol indeed.


I did like the prisoner. A lot. I just wasn't happy at all with the last episode.
 
Would you have preferred a nice conventional ending that wrapped it all up? The ending was marvellously in keeping with the ethos and style of the whole show, if you didn't like it, you didn't like The Prisoner.
 
Tbh the ending was stupid, and made me realise that the whole series had been made by people who didn't actually appreciate the good parts of what they'd done.

Fucking hippies.
 
OK just saw the first of the new series. Not that good tbh, a bit shite. I'll see what eps 2 and 3 are like and if they do not deliver I am sacking it off as a bad lot.
 
Sir Belchalot said:
This series starts on Sunday in the U.S.
Hope it's a worthy replacement for Mad Men on Monday morning downloads but have my doubts having loved the original series.
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Indeed, though it's only going to replace the hole which Mad Men has left for one week, since it's a mini series. :(

I really enjoyed the first double episode, can't wait to gorge myself on the rest tonight. :cool:
 
belboid said:
Would you have preferred a nice conventional ending that wrapped it all up? The ending was marvellously in keeping with the ethos and style of the whole show, if you didn't like it, you didn't like The Prisoner.
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Don't tell me what I did and didn't like. I fucking loved the Prisoner. The end was not in-keeping with the spirit of the show.
I'm not sure what I wanted to happen at the end, I wanted to be surprised and amazed by good writing. Instead I was disappointed by a daft hippy cop out.

Check out the end of Sapphire and Steel, that was a bat shit programme with a crazy ending worth talking about.

Or Battle of the Planets (Gatchaman) - that was a daft kids cartoon, but it turned out they were fighting (and killed) God.

You can have a crazy arse ending and it can be fantastic. The last episode of the prisoner was, after some ground breaking TV, some very of it's time druggy hippy crap.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Don't tell me what I did and didn't like. I fucking loved the Prisoner. The end was not in-keeping with the spirit of the show.
I'm not sure what I wanted to happen at the end, I wanted to be surprised and amazed by good writing. Instead I was disappointed by a daft hippy cop out.

Check out the end of Sapphire and Steel, that was a bat shit programme with a crazy ending worth talking about.

Or Battle of the Planets (Gatchaman) - that was a daft kids cartoon, but it turned out they were fighting (and killed) God.

You can have a crazy arse ending and it can be fantastic. The last episode of the prisoner was, after some ground breaking TV, some very of it's time druggy hippy crap.
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oooh tetchy.

I'll say it again, if you didn't like the end, you didn't li,ke The Prisoner.

In your case, I'd go for you probably didn't understand it. Stick to your kids cartoons.
 
Watched it all now & it didn't really improve, #2 was good but couldn't empathise much with #6. His acting reminded me of the bloke in the U.S. remake of 'Life on Mars'. I wonder what his next project will be, he seems to like doing remakes of stuff I liked as a nipper. His last film was 'The Long Weekend', a pointless remake of the 70's eco-horror.
 
and his famous one before that was yet another remake of that tedious story about that bloke from Nazareth...
 
well personally I loved the thoroughly open ending, which left the way for potential follow-ons (had he really escaped, was he just whacked out on drugs and they were hoping he would lead them to the 'real' answer) whilst seemingly completing it, the turn against hyper-individualism (I, I, I, I, I), the dig at the way society often condemns condemns condemns something and then accepts it wholeheartedly (youth 'rebellions' most obviously). And I jjust loved the way it wasn't a nice pat, everything sorted, ending, and that it wound people up.

And, of course, it was funny.

(btw, the 'conclusion' for Sapphire & Steel was never meant to be the conclusion, there was another season planned, but Lumley had had enough)
 
belboid said:
well personally I loved the thoroughly open ending, which left the way for potential follow-ons (had he really escaped, was he just whacked out on drugs and they were hoping he would lead them to the 'real' answer) whilst seemingly completing it, the turn against hyper-individualism (I, I, I, I, I), the dig at the way society often condemns condemns condemns something and then accepts it wholeheartedly (youth 'rebellions' most obviously). And I jjust loved the way it wasn't a nice pat, everything sorted, ending, and that it wound people up.

And, of course, it was funny.

(btw, the 'conclusion' for Sapphire & Steel was never meant to be the conclusion, there was another season planned, but Lumley had had enough)
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I don't mind an open ended ending, I never said I wanted it all neatly tied up. I kind of like some of the ideas but I just didn't like the way it was done, it felt very different from the rest of the series. Not that I condemn that, it's just that instead of being different to compliment the conclusion it felt like ti was there to blur & fudge it.

Central canned Sapphire and Steel, it was known long before the sixth series was even filmed that it would be the last. They might have hoped it to be picked up again (unlikely though) and wrote and open ending but they were always writing it as the last.
 
watched parts 3 & 4 now, and they are keeping to various aspects of the original surprisingly well, much of the tone and and style, even a little bit of the surrealism, with a quite amusing use of pigs. I've gone off Cazzythingy tho, too monotone, none of McGoohans wit, and I doubt that they can really tie the whole thing together at the end, but that would still be in keeping with the original.
 
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