The Plod come and chap your door.
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<Chooses words carefully>
Thing is, you might innocently "invite them in" for a cup of tea and a hobnob so they can tell you all about how they just found next door's kitten or whatever. But while they are there, their eyes are everywhere. How sure are you that there isn't something lying around that you don't want them to see?
Bollocks! It's the other fucking way around.
Shitty experiences --> My attitude.
But I can't be objective at the moment.
Thing is, you might innocently "invite them in" for a cup of tea and a hobnob so they can tell you all about how they just found next door's kitten or whatever. But while they are there, their eyes are everywhere. How sure are you that there isn't something lying around that you don't want them to see?
tobyjug said:
Bollocks! It's the other fucking way around.
Shitty experiences --> My attitude.
But I can't be objective at the moment.
Naive or what? You really think that the pigs NEVER try to get in when they haven't got a warrant/are in "hot pursuit"?detective-boy said:
I'd lean out of window and check who it was and what they wanted - but it's a squat so it could be the council or bailiffs or whoever... safest just not to open the door to anyone unexpected. Police did threaten to batter our door down and take everyone's children into care if we didn't let them in the other day though 
Lucky they were at your door rather than using their "abseil in the towerblock window" option ...oi2002 said:
"Hot pursuit" (depending on the precise circumstances) usually includes a legal power (so Reason 2 applies). They may "try" to get in but if they have no power and you say no, that's your right. They may go away and get a warrant and come back (if they have sufficient grounds) but let them do it.reallyoldhippy said:
Isambard said:
pretty sure mate
And if you've opened the door, they may just push past you and claim you "let them in". Your word against theirs. And in my (extensive) experience they'll get away with it. We're talking actual fact here, not theory.detective-boy said:
madamv
Oi! With the poodle already
I guess alot of this opinion is based on experience, either personal or word of mouth etc.
My experience is nothing to report really. Mates ex-hub was a DS, he came round one night a bit unexpected-like but was completely cool with the sight before him.
Once plain clothes came round after a fire in a neighbours flat. But it was my birthday and my folks were over so a big phew, as ordinarily the place would have been full of rizlas and puff! Didnt stop me being breathless with nerves, or frantically scanning round to see if anything was left out though
I would let them in now, as we have bubba, nothing incriminating hanging about. Never had a bad experience, or known anyone who has.
My experience is nothing to report really. Mates ex-hub was a DS, he came round one night a bit unexpected-like but was completely cool with the sight before him.
Once plain clothes came round after a fire in a neighbours flat. But it was my birthday and my folks were over so a big phew, as ordinarily the place would have been full of rizlas and puff! Didnt stop me being breathless with nerves, or frantically scanning round to see if anything was left out though
I would let them in now, as we have bubba, nothing incriminating hanging about. Never had a bad experience, or known anyone who has.
I'm not saying that could never happen ... just that if they are minded to do that they'll kick your door in anyway ...reallyoldhippy said:And if you've opened the door, they may just push past you and claim you "let them in". Your word against theirs. And in my (extensive) experience they'll get away with it. We're talking actual fact here, not theory.
Geri! Stop thinking those things ...Geri said:
And, like I said, they'll have a harder time explaining a smashed door away than pushing past you. Both illegal, but one a lot harder to cover up.detective-boy said:
madamv
Oi! With the poodle already
Geri said:
It wouldnt be unusual for band wagon jumping would it Geri?
Some people just give opinions for the sake of it. Dont they. However, on this thread there seems to be much experience. THAT is what I meant. 
Geri said:
Yes, and a few glasses of wine. And to wish us happy new year.
cemertyone
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butchersapron said:
Your such a fucking drunk......
get out more you loser...Me and my mate were routinely stopped by the police on our way home from the pub. They asked us what we'd be doing, where we were going and for our names and addresses. Are we legally entitled to refuse to give our names and addresses considering we weren't under suspicion of doing anything wrong?
Yes - and they have to tell you why they're stopping you and give you a receipt for a stop and search.anfield said:
From the LDMG website (www.ldmg.org.uk)
It's quite true that you don't need to provide any details at all, as has been said, but on a practical note you should always consider the situation on it's merits.anfield said:
YOU may KNOW exactly what you have been doing or not doing, but the officers probably do not.
They know exactly what they have stopped you for (i.e. what they suspect you may or may not have done), but you don't until they tell you. They also know how reliable / strong the information they are acting on is - and they will probably not be telling you that.
If they have stopped you because they suspect you of something (e.g. you fit the description of something which has happened round the corner) then they may actually have lawful grounds to arrest you (they can arrest under s.24 Police & Criminal Evidence Act 1984 where they have reasonable grounds to suspect (a) that an arrestable offence (virtually any significant offence from theft / damage / ABH upwards) has been committed and (b) that the person has committed it (i.e. suspicion x2)). This is effectively LESS grounds than they need to stop and search you!
Usually they would rather not bother with people who are NOT the suspect they are looking for but, equally, they don't want to be in the position of stopping someone, letting them go not knowing who they are and the later finding out another bit of information which shows it was them after all!
In your conversation with them therefore you need to judge what the situation is. If you don't give your details, and have nothing on you with those details, then you may end up getting arrested on suspicion of something ... BUT, if you DO give your details they may let you go because if they need to come back to you they know who you are and can find you.
It's a judgement call - usually a polite conversation with them (i.e. one not starting "Oh fuck off pigs ...") will get enough of a steer for you to make that call (and if it looks like you're going to get nicked then you can always give them your details then!).
God, you live in cloud cuckoo land. I've been stopped on numerous occasions. And when it comes down to it, it's because they don't like the look of me. I'm always polite. But I know my rights and I'm always insistant on them. On several occasions this has led to hassle, being arrested, released without charge. It's easier work than catching criminals though, isn't it?detective-boy said:
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
reallyoldhippy said:
Ah, but were you wearing your "fuck the pigs" t-shirt with the picture of a PC being given anal pleasure by a bull at the time?
Where can I get one from?ViolentPanda said:"fuck the pigs" t-shirt with the picture of a PC being given anal pleasure by a bull at the time?
One time I was wearing a Glastonbury 1985 t-shirt. And another a Radford Community Festival Steward one. Fucking dangerous, eh?
likesfish
You can't park here sir
last time had police in my hosue 10 years ago because somebody had been shot outside my house
tried to blame it on me combat gear knives how to kill book and soldier of fortune magazine in my small student room
fortunatly was out when the drive by happened some nutter shot a passer by with a .32 pocket pistol old bloke limped up the hill thinking he'd been hit with an air gun till he got to the chemist
result armed coppers camped out in our house ate all the chochalte biscuits and did'nt go till the cricket finished.
still did'nt find the highly illegal argie assualt rifle under my bed though
tried to blame it on me combat gear knives how to kill book and soldier of fortune magazine in my small student room
fortunatly was out when the drive by happened some nutter shot a passer by with a .32 pocket pistol old bloke limped up the hill thinking he'd been hit with an air gun till he got to the chemist
result armed coppers camped out in our house ate all the chochalte biscuits and did'nt go till the cricket finished.
still did'nt find the highly illegal argie assualt rifle under my bed though
No mate.reallyoldhippy said:
It's just that I've been on the other side of the fence and I've met my share of total and utter fuckwits who have slagged me off from the fucking start ... and so they've ended up getting nicked when I really would rather have done something else.
No-one, police officer or otherwise, is going to go out of their way to NOT nick some twat who is slagging them off are they?
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