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The Perfect Bolognese...

jodal said:
Fuck off twat. I'm not saying thats my full recipe, I'm just highlighting the two things I feel are important.


You would never, ever find tomato ketchup is a proper bolognaise. Twat. :p
 
jodal said:
Two things make a great spag bol:

lots and lots of crunchy vegetables (like carrots, peppers, onions, celery (sp?)) and a dollop of Heinz Ketchup in with your chosen sauce of choice. It works a treat to sweaten the flavour and make it an interesting texture instead of that horrible pasty type stuff you get in restaurants.

With a side order of fish fingers, maltesers and salad cream - mmmmmm yummy :eek:
 
Meh, who cares. Thats what I like in bolognaise, I am sincerely sorry that it offends you lot.
 
look dudes - bollocknaise is supposed to be a simple, quick, tasty dish IMO. If you're going to start adding posh stuff like celery and chickens knee caps then it's just not a bol.

Keep it simple and NO fuckin ketchup!

No more arguing!
 
pootle said:
You would never, ever find tomato ketchup is a proper bolognaise. Twat. :p

It seems you are missing my point. I am not saying that you base the sauce on a bottle of ketchup. Just a quick squirt of it to sweeten the sauce like. I guess its quite a low brow way of cooking but fuck it, who cares. I once looked through to the kitchen at Claridges and am 100% sure that I saw Gordon sneaking some of Heinz's finest into the bolognaise. So there, proof. :p
 
Oh, and just one last thing - none of this 'lean' mince shite either. You need standard mince with a bit of fat to give flavour.
If you want to be healthy fuck off and eat some rabbit food but don't bring your fanatical health kick into MY Italian kitchen!






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cilobrac said:
Oh, and just one last thing - none of this 'lean' mince shite either. You need standard mince with a bit of fat to give flavour.
If you want to be healthy fuck off and eat some rabbit food but don't bring your fanatical health kick into MY Italian kitchen!






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too much coffee perhaps ;)
 
fry an onion till brown add garlic, fry a bit more, add tins of tomatoes and puree + herbs and a little mollasses;/ simmer a while. Add chunks of carrot, blend it up till the carrots are granular; Add olive oil Heat a bit more, throw in a handful of seeds, fresh herbs other veg? SERVE with spaghetti on a hot plate
 
I usually add a couple of teaspoons of sugar to sweeten, always a dash of Worcester sauce. I also find that tinned peeled plum tomatoes are better than tinned chopped tomatoes. As for the mince i always try & use Angus.
 
BiddlyBee said:
When do you add the milk to it? :confused:

Usually towards the end. Only needs to heat through a little

Letting the thing cook slowly, bubbling almost imperceptibly, helps make a particularly thick and beautiful sauce. Cook harder and there's a risk it becomes more separated and thinner.
 
Mrs Miggins said:
So I take it this isn't very "saucy" ? Does it come out more like sort of moist deliciously flavoured mince?

Yeah, sort of.
I don't like sloppy sauces - it seems like a waste, cos most of it ends up in a place other than your stomach
 
ChrisFilter said:
Haha Jodal.. you're getting all upset.. calm down little chimp, it'll be ok (((((Little Chimp)))))

Haha, ha, ahhh. Not upset mate, just not used to the harsh reality of suburban. I should probs go back to the film forum before I get metaphorically gang banged again by this bunch of old l'hoosers.

Just kidding of course.
 
BiddlyBee said:
Does it add much to the flavour? I've never added milk before.

I can live without it - hell, I forget it to add it all too often, but I suspect because I'm being a little inauthentic with the extra tomatoes it doesn't make as much difference, but it does add a little added creaminess and depth.
 
Orang Utan said:
Yeah, sort of.
I don't like sloppy sauces - it seems like a waste, cos most of it ends up in a place other than your stomach
That's what garlic breads for :)
 
Have skimmed read through - what works for me is a small amount of chicken livers with the mince, brings a fantastic meaty flavour!
 
ChrisFilter said:
'Sweaten' it eh? Mmmmmmmmm!

Get rid of the crunch imho.. I hate crunchy veg. I reckon:

Tomato
Mushroom
Fucking shit loads of slightly rare mince
Tobasco
Sun blush tomatos
Red Wine
Pecorino Nero

Bung it in a pan, job done.

Slightly rare mince? Surely the whole point of bolognese sauce is that it's cooked slowly and for a long time? :confused:
 
fry onions until starting to brown a bit
add good beef mince (agree that it shouldn't be too lean), fry until brown
add a few slivers of garlic
add a little bit of good beef stock
add oregano and basil
add black pepper and a bit of salt
add some drained tinned tomatoes

cook on a VERY low heat for as long as possible, stirring once in awhile. Do not allow it to come to a boil as it makes the tomatoes go all acidic and lose their sweetness.

at some point add some chopped bacon that has already been grilled or fried separately.

add a dollop of milk or (even better) cream at the end after it's off the heat.


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admittedly this is probably nothing like real ragu from Bologna, but it's a very nice tomatoey spaghetti sauce. :)
 
cilobrac said:
look dudes - bollocknaise is supposed to be a simple, quick, tasty dish IMO. If you're going to start adding posh stuff like celery and chickens knee caps then it's just not a bol.

Keep it simple and NO fuckin ketchup!

No more arguing!

Ah! You never said we were making *Bollock*naise!

So:

Chop up an onion. Fry it. Add a lump of frozen mince and watch telly until defrosted. Tip into unburnt pan, add a tin of tomatoes - mash with wooden spoon. Add ketchup/worcester sauce/tabasco/angostura bitters, stir desultarily, overcook some spaghetti (breaking it into little pieces to get it in to the pan), mix together, eat.
 
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