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The parliamentary road to anarchism

LLETSA said:
The policy of concentrating them all in a few areas of most university cities has mostly negative consequences, especially with the ever-growing student population.

It's all profit for the student industry though.
Out of curiosity, is there any evidence whatsoever that students are any worse for binge drinking/anti-social behaviour than any other group largely comprised of young adults? And how can you tell when its the students being cunts? Do they show you their NUS card before they "throw up on your doorstep" or what?
 
hibee said:
And again I don't want to hear how anarchism is contrary to parliamentary democracy - but why has a moderate strand of anarchism never arisen which seeks to use it? Or have anarchists ever stood for/been elected to assemblies that I can't turn up on google?
It's called the Green Party. ;)
 
In Bloom said:
Out of curiosity, is there any evidence whatsoever that students are any worse for binge drinking/anti-social behaviour than any other group largely comprised of young adults? And how can you tell when its the students being cunts? Do they show you their NUS card before they "throw up on your doorstep" or what?



There probably is no evidence that they are worse for binge drinking than most other groups of young adults. It's just that when they are concentrated in small areas, like they are in most university cities, their behaviour does stand out, and they are most likely to behave in this way than other groups simply because they outnumber them. That's leaving aside the fact that they have the spare time and the money to go out and socialise more than any other group (even if it is, for some, only in the form of credit they'll have to pay back at some point in the future). Most other young adults don't keep people awake at night during the working week simply because they need to be up for work in the morning themselves; they are among the ones being kept awake, in fact.

And you know when it's students who are responsible for anti-social behaviour not only for all of these reasons, but also because they stand out a mile in what were once relatively quiet working class suburbs or inner-city areas.
 
re: the Spanish cenetista electoral shannigans;

IIRC There was a group around Angel Pestana that split from the CNT in the early thirties, that stood in elections under the name Partido Syndicalista re-uniting just before the July days...
 
LLETSA said:
And you know when it's students who are responsible for anti-social behaviour not only for all of these reasons, but also because they stand out a mile in what were once relatively quiet working class suburbs or inner-city areas.

The working-class, inner-city area students occupy, in the city I once lived, experienced a riot not so long ago, which saw a pub burnt down. It wasn't students rioting either.
 
As ever you exaggerate, moy tovarisch

MC5 said:
The working-class, inner-city area students occupy, in the city I once lived, experienced a riot not so long ago, which saw a pub burnt down. It wasn't students rioting either.



I was talking about the constant nuisance of low-level anti-social behaviour, not rioting.
 
In Bloom said:
Out of curiosity, is there any evidence whatsoever that students are any worse for binge drinking/anti-social behaviour than any other group largely comprised of young adults? And how can you tell when its the students being cunts? Do they show you their NUS card before they "throw up on your doorstep" or what?

They wouldn't need to in Fallowfield in South Manchester because you virtually need to show a bloody NUS card to live and drink there.
 
In Bloom said:
Out of curiosity, is there any evidence whatsoever that students are any worse for binge drinking/anti-social behaviour than any other group largely comprised of young adults?

But apart from student areas, where else in the UK do you get ghettos of young people? Lenton in Nottingham has suffered from tensions due to students and the student industry riding roughshod over the local inhabitants. Likewise, in another area of Nottm, an older lady remonstrating with a young man who'd just staggered over to the side of the road to throw up, was greeted with the complaint -- 'You can't talk to me like that. I'm going to be a lawyer!'
:rolleyes: :D
 
Exaggerated innit

LLETSA said:
I was talking about the constant nuisance of low-level anti-social behaviour, not rioting.

That you were, however my point was in reference to this:

....once relatively quiet working class suburbs or inner-city areas.
[My emphasis]
 
LLETSA said:
I was talking about the constant nuisance of low-level anti-social behaviour, not rioting.
I don't think that's as much as a problem as the effect students have on the local services (certainly in universties based in smaller cities/towns). Eg driving house prices up, extra strain on GP's, dentists etc. And of coarse this isn't helped by the government pushing universities to take more students regardless of their situation.
 
MC5 said:
No, some.



Stop splitting hairs then.

As usual, you're just picking on me for the sake of it.

Sob. (Not referring to you with that last word, by the way.)
 
redsquirrel said:
I don't think that's as much as a problem as the effect students have on the local services (certainly in universties based in smaller cities/towns). Eg driving house prices up, extra strain on GP's, dentists etc. And of coarse this isn't helped by the government pushing universities to take more students regardless of their situation.



All sadly true. It's an industry all right.
 
LLETSA said:
Stop splitting hairs then.

As usual, you're just picking on me for the sake of it.

Sob. (Not referring to you with that last word, by the way.)

<metaphorically pats LLETSA on head and says there, there, it will all be better soon>
 
redsquirrel said:
I don't think that's as much as a problem as the effect students have on the local services (certainly in universties based in smaller cities/towns). Eg driving house prices up, extra strain on GP's, dentists etc. And of coarse this isn't helped by the government pushing universities to take more students regardless of their situation.

Bit like the asylum seekers situation really only there are more students and they have less qualifications and less manners . Couldn't students be dispersed to places that actually need them?
 
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