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The NUJ's unjust boycott of Israel, why?

becky p said:
They really are a pair of self obsessed cretins. ;)
I agree though that to criticise Israel is not in itself anti semitic.But those who seem to be obsessed about critcising Israel are.

yeah, those self-hating jews eh. practically helping their fellows to the ovens.
 
becky p said:
They really are a pair of self obsessed cretins. ;)
More name-calling?

Good for you. It's good that you're good at something, it's just a shame you're not any good at making substantive points as well, eh?
I agree though that to criticise Israel is not in itself anti semitic.But those who seem to be obsessed about critcising Israel are.

Yet again the sagacious beckyp favours us with her observations, like a fecally-incontinent tramp farting out unsupported foul-smelling hot air.

What a shining example you are to us all! :)
 
bluestreak said:
yeah, those self-hating jews eh. practically helping their fellows to the ovens.

That's me blue. I'm a regular fucking sonderkommando. :(

You know what really gets me? These know-nothings regurgitating what they read in the papers, have they been to Israel, have they got relatives there, do they even know any Jews? I'm doubtful, because if they did they wouldn't be spouting the insulting fucking ignorant shite that seems to pass as "fact" for them.
 
Pete the Greek said:
VP and Nino:

if you genuinely believe the OP is a troll, then I suggest your best course of action is to reappraise yourself of the term as a definition, or seek to become slightly more broad minded.

The points raised are more than reasonable and sound. I'd suggest that most right thinking people would at the very least have considered such a view as having salience.

You two, if you don't mind me saying, are really quite bitter, chewed up people.

Maybe you're orphans. Or dropped on the heads as children. Or maybe you just believe everything Indymedia and the Independent on Sunday tells you.

Either way, I'm more inclined to view you two nasty bitter cunts as trolls as Firky - your pathetic, thinly veiled anti-semitism could only appeal to the Stevie Wonders of the World of Political Insight.

Do us all a favour, and go give eachother a nice, fresh reach around and release all that pent up frustration, cos your writings are giving me a headache.

Ya pair of fucking bores.

This post sums you up and is fairly typical of your style. You came to this thread for no other reason than to troll.

These forums are sull of your ignorant comments and your snide remarks. You continue to labour under the misguided impression that you have something worthwhile to say. But I've got news for you: you haven't. If you think that you're being 'funny', you aren't, you just make yourself look like an ignorant Nuts reading fool.

If anyone is a bore, it's you.
 
Pete the Greek said:
Two lines that pretty sum up my thoughts on the matter.

Now if everyone will excuse me, I'm done with this thread - I'm clearly not going to get anywhere discussing something where the dominators of the forum (VP and NINO) are intent on tag-teaming and going way overboard at every opportunity.

it's like trying to discuss ethics with a sociopath.

I give up.

You're not only a troll but you're a transparent fucking idiot.
 
Pete the Greek said:
Why should he have to dredge out examples? it's patently obvious this is the norm in this forum :rolleyes:

Fucking joke.

So where are your informed contributions?

Aye, you are a fucking joke. :D
 
Pete the Greek said:
I think this paranoia over me calling you self loathing is a bit of a tell-tell sign of your own insecurities mate. I never called you self loathing and I have zero idea of your racial/ethnic/religious background, so how would I be able to call you a self loathing jew even if I wanted to?

I don't think you're self loathing, but I do strongly believe that your passionate feelings towards Israel belie your lurking anti-semitism, which may be witting or unwitting.

It is not logical or rational for you to form the biased, ridiculous opinions against Israel as you do. It is an isolated democracy amidst a field of wolves and aggressors. It is under potential siege ALL THE TIME. Of course it takes a certain tough line against the Palestintians. It's to secure the safety of citizens.

Another classic Pete the Prick post. Nowhere in this post is there a suggestion that he has read the thread, the rest of the posts in this forum or any books on the subject. Instead, he's just rolled up to lay into those whom he feels are his 'enemies'. Though I suspect it has more to do with derailing threads which don't conform to his reactionary and ill-informed position than owt else.

Right, Pete?
 
What a horrible thread. As if the ethnic cleansing that was involved in the formation of Israel never happened.
 
Luther Blissett said:
You accused a Jew of 'thinly veiled anti-semitism. In what way is this not my business?

This struggle for Jewish liberation is not only about Israel, but can be viewed as a wider struggle for liberation against all forms of oppression. In what way are Jews liberated when they live in a an oppressive, occupying society? How is racism, chauvinism, forced militarism to be thought of as 'freedom' for Jews? How is imprisonment upon refusal to seve in the Occupied Territories 'freedom for Jews'? How can it be that Jews are free of struggle for liberation when they are subject to homophobia in the State that was meant to keep them safe from 'antisemitism'? Outside of Israel, when most Americans cannot tell an Mizrahi (Arab) Jew from an Arab Muslim - how is that freedom from antisemitism?

You, Pete the Greek, resort to a common divisive stratgey, so often used in raging desparation by the American and Israeli far-right to label Jews against the occupation, anti/non/post-zionist Jews (living in our outside of Israel), Jews who speak out against atrocities made by the Israeli State in the name of achieving 'freedom from oppression for Jews', as 'self-hating', or 'less than Jewish', 'traitors', or in your case your unsubstantiated accusation of 'thinly veiled antisemitism' against ViolentPanda.

Please provide concrete evidence, as requested.


I'm more likely to get a blowjob from Archbishop Chrysostomos II than "concrete evidence" from Pete the Greek. Luther.
 
The boycott is stupid as all hell. A journalism boycott? Aren;t journalists supposed to be objective by nature? In addition,, is it not one of the nest ways to effect change by offering full coverage? The union makes no sense and seems to be run by a pack of loons.
 
rachamim18 said:
The boycott is stupid as all hell. A journalism boycott? Aren;t journalists supposed to be objective by nature? In addition,, is it not one of the nest ways to effect change by offering full coverage? The union makes no sense and seems to be run by a pack of loons.

unlike israel?
 
rachamim18 said:
The boycott is stupid as all hell. A journalism boycott? Aren;t journalists supposed to be objective by nature? In addition,, is it not one of the nest ways to effect change by offering full coverage? The union makes no sense and seems to be run by a pack of loons.

It's amazing how you've always got something to say, but still haven't, after 6 months of prevarication, given Grandma Death the answers you solemnly promised him.

By the way, your assumption about what an NUJ boycott actually means is incorrect, but please don't let that get in the way of your pontification.
 
rachamim18 said:
The boycott is stupid as all hell. A journalism boycott? Aren;t journalists supposed to be objective by nature? In addition,, is it not one of the nest ways to effect change by offering full coverage? The union makes no sense and seems to be run by a pack of loons.

Really? Did you support the apartheid regime in South Africa? I'll bet you did.
 
nino_savatte said:
Really? Did you support the apartheid regime in South Africa? I'll bet you did.

The state of Israel did.

They were happy to co-fund and co-research Project Coast, as well as to supply armaments in violation of the sanctions on the RSA.
 
ViolentPanda said:
The state of Israel did.

They were happy to co-fund and co-research Project Coast, as well as to supply armaments in violation of the sanctions on the RSA.

Rach is trying to present this as a "wee bit of co-operation".
 
nino_savatte said:
Rach is trying to present this as a "wee bit of co-operation".

Violating sanctions and laws isn't "co-operation", it's illegal assistance.

Given that Project Coast's primary long-term aim was to design ethnically specific bio-weapons, and that the state of Israel already either had alternate sources or "in-house" production of the other goodies Coast produced (including better sources of ecstasy, mandrax and amphetamines), one wonders what Rachamim believes this "wee bit of co-operation" was actually aimed at. :)
 
Another 7 posts [after my last] purely devoted to throwing ad homs towards me. Again, what a waste. If you cannot deal with me in a civil manner, why not be adults and put me on ignore?
 
rachamim18 said:
Another 7 posts [after my last] purely devoted to throwing ad homs towards me. Again, what a waste. If you cannot deal with me in a civil manner, why not be adults and put me on ignore?

Ah, the auld moral high ground routine. Save it for some other schmuck, you pisher.
 
rachamim18 said:
. Again, what a waste. If you cannot deal with me in a civil manner, why not be adults and put me on ignore?


And let you get off with making claims you cannot back up? Think again lad. The clock is ticking and you've been rumbled.
 
Another 3 wasted posts, keep it up losers. Soon you will find the administrators will close the forium since it serves no real purpose anymore.
 
rachamim18 said:
....since it serves no real purpose anymore.
Hehehe oh but it does, I get info here that I'd otherwise not come across - that's real information btw; something you seem to be rather short of. ;)
 
This place is shit. You haven't got a brain amongst you let alone any understanding of the situation or been there (I don't claim to, hence the OP) but you lot take the fucking biscuit. I don't think anyone has ever been 'over there' beyond a little field trip to ogle at the locals. Yet you all have strong opinions probably infused from BBC news and other online sources. GUFFAW!

As for VP, you're not a stupid fella, you can engage properly when you want to, sort it out fella. :)

*smirks*
 
Teqniq: Other than the occaisonal information I provide here thereis nothing but grafted propaganda. Simply "google" "Palestine." It is alot easier.

As for Firky, I happen to live here so you need to revise your statement. I hold citizenship and I along with 3 of my kids serve in the IDF.
 
Rachamin: I am quite willing to concede that that there is hatred, mistrust and violence on all sides of the dispute in your part of the world. Indeed it is blindlingly obvious. 'Grafted propaganda' - that's a bit rich coming from you. As I have quite clearly stated elsewhere I stopped taking you seriously some time ago, also you can hardly blame Grandma for being rude since you have so far failed to provide the requested evidence 5 months or so later. :)
 
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