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The new GWR Hitachi trains - my verdict

Discussion in 'transport' started by editor, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. No you're not, you are paying because you didn't know you had to travel until just now. When my daughter was struck down with meningitis I had to pay a massive premium to get to her in Devon compared to someone who got a seat by booking months in advance. Classy.
     
  2. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    How do they "take you money and not deliver your service"? Did they get you to where you wanted to go? Then they fulfilled their end of the contract. And you can ALREADY get money back.....

    So you want to have to pay for a seat reservation? Something that is currently FREE! I see.

    I'm experiencing great discomfort right now as it happens, great discomfort at being made to read you waffling on and on. There are too many people wanting to travel for every person to get a seat every time on every train. That's not a "disgrace" it's a fact. It's also a fact that if you think that it is possible to get everyone a seat then you are living in a fucking dream world.

    Why should I have "empathy" for whinging lazy trouble makers such as yourself?
     
  3. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    You are (deliberately, I suspect and also hope) continuing to miss the point. Standing up on a long distance train journey is a bad propostion, and indeed considered unacceptable on most civilised countries. If British TOCs and the rail regulator see fit to allow people to stand for hours on end on long distance train journeys, the price of travel to them should be significantly lower than that for those who get a seat.

    Do you agree with that principle? Yes/no?



    And you continue to miss the point. Please see above, though I'll repeat it once more: if it is not possible to get everyone a seat, how can you possibliy justify charging the same money to those without seat as those with one?



    So older people, the infirm, pregnant women, children and plenty others who are not disabled but would certainly be in great discomfort if they had to stand for several hours on a moving train are whinging lazy trouble makers in your view for complaining about it, or thinking being charged as much as those sitting down is not fair?
     
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  4. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    So what you want to do is make the ticketing system even more complicated then it already is by somehow (how exactly?) charging different prices depending on whether a pax finds a seat available when they get on a random train? OK..................

    And let's get one thing straight, no one is forced to stand on a specific train. People with flexible tickets can get on ANY train. This is the whole point of them being flexible.

    I was talking specifically about you as it happens, based on your posts in this thread. And I already pointed out that their are priority seats.

    Because you're not paying for a seat? How many more fucking times? Jesus......
     
  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Actually, I quoted union general secretary, Manuel Cortes who said that the GWR service would have no general buffet car in the forseeable future.

    Here: read it for yourself - End of the line for buffet cars on First Great Western
     
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  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    So I'm on the return journey. The seat reservation indicators are already broken :facepalm:

    Oh and definitely no buffet onboard either!
     
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  7. Rosemary Jest

    Rosemary Jest Wrong and Unstable

    But what are the bogs like?

    WE MUST KNOW!!!
     
  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've already said! They're pretty good but the regular ones are a bit of a squeeze.
     
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  9. Rosemary Jest

    Rosemary Jest Wrong and Unstable

    Sorry, i was too eager in wanting to find out.

    Glad to know they're decent. :thumbs:

    Hope they don't stink of Richard Branson's arse like the virgin ones.
     
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  10. xenon

    xenon Carne Por la Machina

    Are they electronic doors though?
     
  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Not in the regular smaller loos which have a satisfying chunky mechanical lock to secure the mechanical sliding door. You can have a shit without fear of a mid dump reveal.
     
  12. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    That doesn't happen if you lock the door........
     
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Except a lot of people found it confusing to operate. This is a fact.
     
  14. Bit too much information there ed, though would have thought with your veggie diet there’d be no squeezing required?
     
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  15. xenon

    xenon Carne Por la Machina


    Cheers. i'll be on that route at the weekend. I hate needing a piss and not being to get in / out of the casi because it's been overly complicated by using buttons in non standard places, with non standard or missing tactile markings. Not like you want to grope around toilet walls to find the frigging controls.
     
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  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm as slim as a rake but there's not a lot of room in the loo. It's got one of those combo soap/water/drier basins but you're sure to end up splashing water on the floor as it's all a bit tight in there.
     
  17. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    Probably the same idiots that think they should get a seat when they buy a ticket :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    I've learnt two things from this thread. There are some new trains and bungle is a bit of a dick.

    Exciting news about the trains. I'm off to Cardiff on Friday so might get to try one.
     
  19. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    Jesus Christ. This is exactly what I was talking about. You've got one person whinging about not having a buffet, and yet you've others whinging about not having enough seats. Which do you want? More seats or a buffet? I suggest you make up you fucking minds.

    Who do you want kicked off the train so someone else can have their seat? Maybe we should start with you?

    Er how have I been a dick? Because i have pointed out some facts?
     
  20. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    If you want a seat get a reservation!! Why is that so fucking hard?????? Jesus Christ you people. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Walk on guaranteed seats and a buffet would be nice. Not sure why you're unable to comprehend that.
     
  22. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    A million pounds deposited into my bank account would be "nice", but unfortunately we live in the real world.
     
  23. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    How are you going to do "walk on guaranteed seats" when you have absolutely no idea who is going to turn up for a train, or how many? More people turn up than the capacity of the train, then what?
     
  24. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    If I’m paying full whack for a walk on fare then they should kick someone off with a cheaper ticket so I can have a seat. Or they could just have enough trains/seats to meet demand. Whichever.
     
  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I told you what I'd like. Not sure why you have such a problem with the provision of a buffet. You know, the kind of thing that has been operating on trains on that route for decades.

    I know you're big on FACTS, so are you going to admit you got your facts wrong about the lack of buffets on current GWR trains yet, btw?
     
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  26. Chilli.s

    Chilli.s Well-Known Member

    Both. And quick about it.
     
  27. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    You think that paying "more money" means that you are superior to other pax? I see.

    So TOCs are supposed to magic extra carriages out of thin air at a moment's notice are they?


    What I have a problem with is people who can't make up their minds about what is is that they want.

    Exactly what "facts" did I get "wrong"?
     
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It seems that - like the character in the Del Amitri song - you're the last to know. No problem. Good luck finding the buffet car the next time you board a GWR train!
     
  29. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here Banned

    I never said anything about their buffet cars on GWR trains.......
     
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    What's the topic of this thread, Bungle?

    :facepalm:
     
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