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The Near Death Experience.

Anyone who wants to "get to the other side" can do so without dying anyway. Astral travelling,or Out of Body Experiences can be learnt. I've done a little reading on the subject,and when my life's in a bit better order (apparently you have to have all yer shnizniss sorted out) I'm jumping right on that bad boy. I've tried a few times,and I can get close,I can feel that. Fear holds you back.

and don't worry,if and when I ever do this,you lot will be the first I tell to rip the piss out of me :cool:

I've had a few quite amazing / humblingly beautiful experiences doing relaxation / meditation type stuff in India. The boundary between me and the rest of the universe just seemed to melt away. The gentle tingling in my fingers and toes were my 'anchor', like the tips of a spider's legs hold it to the ceiling. Not sure what would happen had I decided to "let go"...
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you should try it and see :cool: There's never any chance of not getting back into your body,and apparently,it is the fear of this that stops most people from letting go. There is nothing to fear,but fear itself.
 
That's not how it works, sorry :)

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

HTH, etc.

It isn't an extraordinary claim though, is it?

What forms of energy are known that perpetually shift into each other?

Kinetic energy. Or movement. Like walking down the street and stuff. Genius, huh?

Intelligent energy?
 
It isn't an extraordinary claim though, is it?

What forms of energy are known that perpetually shift into each other?

Kinetic energy. Or movement. Like walking down the street and stuff. Genius, huh?

Intelligent energy?

Where's the counter argument after making a big song and dance about this, fogbat?
 
I like the stories re: out of body experiences where people have floated above themselves and watched operations carried out on them.

That is uber cool. :)
 
it is cool,and hopefully it'll be science fact,if this research that's going on can find what it's looking for. That'd rattle some cages I can tell ya :D
 
I had a NDE, and am sure it was a brain/body reaction to severe shock, bloodloss, nothing mystical. It just seems more logical and rational than any other explanation.


“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic”

The D-Man :cool:
 
it is cool,and hopefully it'll be science fact,if this research that's going on can find what it's looking for. That'd rattle some cages I can tell ya :D

I heard a woman explain how she had been in the middle of an operation and had floated out of her body. After she came round she had explained to the surgeon that she had seen him drop an instrument on the floor. The surgeon admitted he did but was amazed when she pointed it out where it fell and which instrument it was. She had no medical knowledge but described it perfectly, by all accounts.

I guess it's the same sort of thing as remote viewing, which i believe the army has dabbled with.
 
Yeah,there's some interesting stuff going on with the mind at the moment. I've been trying for an OBE via meditation for a while now,though I've only actually tried it about 10 times. I've come close,and I know I have,cos I can feel myself leaving,but something prevents me from leaving (so far) I will crack it.
 
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