The Nazis - left wing or right wing?

[nino_savatte]

Can't sleep, Johnny? It must be your guilty conscience...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It is of Pbmans claims though.

I believe he said that jewish communists brought about the rise of nazism, and the holocaust, because they murdered aryans in russia.

I don't agree with him.

 

[nino_savatte]

I believe he said that jewish communists brought about the rise of nazism, and the holocaust, because they murdered aryans in russia.

I don't agree with him.

But you didn't tell him that you disagreed with him - did you?

 

[butchersapron]

I believe he said that jewish communists brought about the rise of nazism, and the holocaust, because they murdered aryans in russia.

I don't agree with him.

And good for you, but the trick was in suggesting that Pbman was merley arguing the bit in bold:

"As I recall, my point was that there was some validity to the view that the rise of Nazism was assisted by a fear of communism in Germany."

rarther than the actual rubbish that he came out with. Not worth us getting worked up about now though (not PBmans stuff, that's still worth getting angry about).

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I think that the thing that go everyone worked up was pbman's use of the word 'aryans', a buzzword if ever there was one.

But he was wrong on that: the dead russians would be slavic people, I think.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think that the thing that go everyone worked up was pbman's use of the word 'aryans', a buzzword if ever there was one.

But he was wrong on that: the dead russians would be slavic people, I think.

You think?

There's plenty of posts spread over the whole thread making that particular point.

Oh, and if you'd actually read the thread thoroughly you'd know it was mostly Ukrainians not Russians.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You think?

There's plenty of posts spread over the whole thread making that particular point.

Oh, and if you'd actually read the thread thoroughly you'd know it was mostly Ukrainians not Russians.

I don't need to read a thread to know that stalin killed ukranians.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't need to read a thread to know that stalin killed ukranians.

But reading the thread thoroughly, which your shambling around the points makes it appear is something you haven't done, would have meant that you'd have known it was yet another thing beside his "commie jew" rant, that pbman showed not the slightest inkling of knowledge about. You (supposedly) knew that the 30s famine killed mostly Ukrainians, pbman needed to be corrected on the point.

The fact is that (however much you run interference for him) the "man" came out with a series of crass, ignorant and incorrect statements, some of which expressed bitter hatred of Jews. they contained poor factual accuracy, but plenty of venom against Jews, however he much later tried to dilute his bile.

I'm just wondering if you'd be as willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he expressed views in which native Americans or African-Americans or Arabs were the butt of his ire? Would you still make excuses for him if he'd inserted the prefix "commie" before saying "injun", "nigger" or "Islamist a-hole"?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

But reading the thread thoroughly, which your shambling around the points makes it appear is something you haven't done, would have meant that you'd have known it was yet another thing beside his "commie jew" rant, that pbman showed not the slightest inkling of knowledge about. You (supposedly) knew that the 30s famine killed mostly Ukrainians, pbman needed to be corrected on the point.

The fact is that (however much you run interference for him) the "man" came out with a series of crass, ignorant and incorrect statements, some of which expressed bitter hatred of Jews. they contained poor factual accuracy, but plenty of venom against Jews, however he much later tried to dilute his bile.

I'm just wondering if you'd be as willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he expressed views in which native Americans or African-Americans or Arabs were the butt of his ire? Would you still make excuses for him if he'd inserted the prefix "commie" before saying "injun", "nigger" or "Islamist a-hole"?

His comment on communist jews, aryans and the holocausts shocked me, almost knocked my socks off.

But like I said to william, it's not much fun running with the herd, and there is some factual truth to be found in the interplay between communism and the rise of nazism.

 

[vimto]

His comment on communist jews, aryans and the holocausts shocked me, almost knocked my socks off.

But like I said to william, it's not much fun running with the herd, and there is some factual truth to be found in the interplay between communism and the rise of nazism.

Talking shite once again I see...

Any chance of a translation please?

 

[vimto]

Come on Johnny,,,

Inspire

 

[vimto]

sends kissess

 

[vimto]

...laces up docs...

 

[laptop]

I think that the thing that go everyone worked up was pbman's use of the word 'aryans', a buzzword if ever there was one.

Mostly, it was his claim that the jews were to blame for the Nazi oppression.

And that's the reason why it's a total fucking mystery why he's not banned.

It's worse than Holocaust denial...

 

[butchersapron]

It's holocaust explanation - and not the good sort. It's justification pretending to be explanation.

 

[laptop]

And, for readers fortunate enough not to be familiar with the genre, its justification plugs straight into the "global jewish conspiracy" bullshit.

And they were still justifying it yesterday:

And they are partialy/primarily responsible for hitler coming to power.

(Will the pbmen running away again now lead to a further inexplicable bout of tolerance of fascist crap, d'you think?)

 

[nino_savatte]

I think that the thing that go everyone worked up was pbman's use of the word 'aryans', a buzzword if ever there was one.

But he was wrong on that: the dead russians would be slavic people, I think.

Really? How did you work that one out? As VP says, aren't Ukrainians Slavs too?

 

[nino_savatte]

...laces up docs...

I'm lacing mine up too!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Really? How did you work that one out? As VP says, aren't Ukrainians Slavs too?

Let's just say that if you accused about 98% of Ukrainians of not being Slavs they'd beat you to death with an empty vodka bottle.

 

[nino_savatte]

Let's just say that if you accused about 98% of Ukrainians of not being Slavs they'd beat you to death with an empty vodka bottle.

Agreed but what I find rather interesting is the way Johnny let his ignorance slip. Here he is, pretending to be superior and he makes a simple mistake like that. No wonder he won't engage me.

 

[pk]

Fuck all this bullshit.

Has the remedial little cunt pbman been booted out yet or what?

 

[vimto]

I reckon they will always be here in some form or another
Getting a right good fucking at the same time mind you while they are here

 

[vimto]

I love Johnny me

 

[vimto]

sniffs...

 

[In Bloom]

Fuck all this bullshit.

Has the remedial little cunt pbman been booted out yet or what?

He fucked off for a while to avoid a ban, made a few sudden, random posts on the "wake up, America!" thread and then fucked off again. Still hasn't been banned.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

He fucked off for a while to avoid a ban, made a few sudden, random posts on the "wake up, America!" thread and then fucked off again. Still hasn't been banned.

He fucked of to see his parents in New Mexico for the christmas holidays.

 

[toggle]

He fucked of to see his parents in New Mexico for the christmas holidays.

and made posts that he knew were going to cause a storm just before that.

how very convenient for him.