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butchersapron said:
Talking of 'the boys' - i just spotted swarthy on a well know (now crap) lads board promising to 'takeover the place'...

where?? PM me. and what exactly were you doing over there?
 
Taxamo Welf said:
F*ck off! Really? oh. I'm well confused now. I assumed that swipe at the WOMBLES came from afed or IWCA types.

What about LLETSA? PM if nec.



I'm in Workers' Power as well (External Faction for a 5th Internationalist New Workers Party ).

Down with those pesky Wombles!
 
Taxamo Welf said:
F*ck off! Really? oh. I'm well confused now. I assumed that swipe at the WOMBLES came from afed or IWCA types.

What about LLETSA? PM if nec.

Less drugs mate, might make you more alert :p
 
Taxamo Welf said:
F*ck off! Really? oh. I'm well confused now. I assumed that swipe at the WOMBLES came from afed or IWCA types.

What about LLETSA? PM if nec.

For a time now supporters of the Fifth International have been impressed with the wombles. Despite not . at present, calling for a new mass workers party, the wombles tactics are seen as an endorsement of the pre revolutionary period. However,the external faction of Workers Power has developed a critique of the wombles and we place them as a similar grouping to the clown army and afed .The majority internal faction ,led by the petite bourgeois cockers, is pro entryist ( apparantlly there is photo graphic evidence that shows him in a white boiler suit on some wombly type march but this may have been faked ). We also have issues about the WP line on recreational drug usage.

We are against the entryism of Workers Powers into the wombles unless the they openly declare themselves a faction.

Hope this helps.
 
Thats a great help Chuck.

What do WP members ( external) think their faction inside the WOMBLES should be called? Is it true that they are thinking of forming an 'Uncle Bulgaria faction', so as to open up the WOMBLES to a discussion about the exact class nature of the former East European 'Soviet Bloc', with the hope of winning them to the position of calling them 'deformed workers states'?
 
WP member said:
Saw these jokers at a picket outside the Leeds court hpouse where Griffin, Tyndall and Collet were up before the man. The main guy on the megaphone was chanting 'Marxist scum - off the street' and 'anarchy will fail'. Catchy. Our demo of 30 was slightly out numbered by the 50+ BNP and the 10-15 NA lot. The BNP demo was quite impressive in terms of age, saw quite a few youth on the demo, waving their union jacks. They were only really cock cos none of them are old enough to remember Lewisham or Waterloo - they needed a good no platforming, no chance of that though with the liberals in the SWP in charge of the counter demo. Its nice to appease your middle class activism though when you get to shout some nasty words at Griffin as he walks into court, isn't it?

no chance of that from WP members either :D

Quick hold scrappy back...

Why is it that workers power are not involved in ANTIFA if they want to no platform the fash?
 
WP member said:
rebel warrior said:
What a shame one of your workers defence committees did not show up, WP member.
We agitate for it within the movement, just like trotskyists have done since the 1930's, if you read that excellent pamphlet by Trotsky on fighting fascism that you used to give away with subscriptions to SW then I am sure you could learn something!

Shame none of your tory or liberal democrat friends didn't turn up as well, eh? I understand from your organisations point of view it is important not to criticise the police or fight against refugee racism in case 'it splits the campaign'. But do these tories, ulster unionists and liberal democrats ever turn up to anything that you lot organise?

I think i know you and it is all the more pathetic to here you talking of fighting the fash big on a board when in reality its much different.

You hang on to the coat tails of the SWP instead of setting your own anti fash agenda.
 
Why is it that workers power are not involved in ANTIFA if they want to no platform the fash?

Not sure. I don't know if ANTIFA has approached Workers Power officially. I heard something about a meeting from someone on here that WP could have gone to, but don't know what happened.

WP were active in AFA and have a good record of anti-fascist/no platform work, including recently at the Le Pen demo in Manchester and a recent event in Liverpool.

I doubt you do know the poster "WP Member", what makes you think you do? And no WP don't hang off the SWPs coat tails, otherwise we would never have been in AFA. And while we have many criticisms of UAF and aren't affiliated that doesn't mean we won't intervene into it or do work with them.

And Herbert can we leave out the hard man stuff from your posts. As much as I'm sure you're a big tough bloke who can single handedly take out the BNP, no platform is about more than that.
 
We've got about ten members in Leeds, how do you know which person it is?

And I can't see anyone giving it the hard man routine other than you. If someone isn't 6 foot five and built like a brick shit house can they not take part in no platform?
 
No one said that CR i was laughing at the hard man routine by your comrades on the boards who in reality always stand and shout the pantomine baddie with the rest of the trots.

Most people i have known over the years have not been six foot five and built like a shit house.

Your comic book capers amuse me. WP was involved in the conception of AFA so why now the coat tails of the SWP.
 
The "quick hold scrappy back" comment maybe?

No one said that CR i was laughing at the hard man routine by your comrades on the boards who in reality always stand and shout the pantomine baddie with the rest of the trots.

Most people i have known over the years have not been six foot five and built like a shit house.

Your comic book capers amuse me. WP was involved in the conception of AFA so why now the coat tails of the SWP.

I don't see a hard man routine by anyone, just someone saying that more than shouting is needed. WPs record speaks for itself in terms of getting stuck in, and it's far from pantomine shouting.

As said engaging with the UAF doesn't put you on the coat tails of the SWP, as anti-fascist actions like in Manchester and Liverpool show.

But I'm sure you're involved in far more stirling stuff. How many BNP members did you take out last week scooby doo?
 
'hold scrappy back' is not hard man

Its an observation talking big and been hard is something WP member did in fantasy on the boards, when in reality the WP contribution was to shout at the fash on the day... i saw with my own eyes :o

hold scrappy back is a tad patronising but not hard man..

Unlike your street fighting members :D
 
do you think any one should discuss anti fash actions on the boards

Shaggy :D

its more like nine members as some one left just recently :D
 
One did just leave, but another member has just joined as far as I know :)

Workers Power members at that demo did not have the forces to do anything by themselves, that doesn't mean that the SWPs position shouldn't be criticised, who wouldn't do anything whether they had the forces or not (I know from Bermondsey demos).

What were you doing on that demo then, taking out the whole fascist contingent?
 
Returning to the original thread, I see that the 'respectable' Freedom party has joined ranks with Messrs Morrison and Co. The FP was supposedly founded on the basis that it offered a moderate alternative to the BNP, and yet they are now in "exploratory talks" with the avowardly nazi Nationalist Alliance. There's a good picture of the very cosy set-up here:

http://www.nationalistalliance.org/nafp.html
 
cockneyrebel said:
As said engaging with the UAF doesn't put you on the coat tails of the SWP, as anti-fascist actions like in Manchester and Liverpool show.

Could you give us some quick examples of the anti-fascist actions in Manchester and Liverpool that you are referring to?

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cockneyrebel said:
The Le Pen demo and a recent event near Liverpool where a BNP speaker was no platformed. Both were publicised on U75 at the time.

A sure sign of someone completely talking out of his arse is when they employ describe 'no platform' in a verbal form. It illustrates a total lack of understanding of the strategy.
 
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