The Narnia Code
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ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
He killed Susan
They all died in the last book didn't they, a train crash or similar that wiped them all out.
Woollyredhat
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I always liked to think my Grandmother's wardrobe would lead to narnia. It was rather big at the back after all. How pissed off I was when I found out it was just a fucking wardrobe after much childhood wasted. I decided to come out of the wardrobe and haven't looked back since.
Everyone in the world dies in the last book iirc, its armageddon for kids.
madzone
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Was the wardrobe representative of a massive fur-lined fanny?
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
Its been quite a few years since I've read them so its all a bit hazy not to do with the subject but one of the child actors name was leo harry potter, Why do that to your child
Kanda
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rollinder
Dont walk away in silence
He killed Susan
but the good children got to go to the 'real Narnia & real earth iirc' which=the New Heaven & Earth of the Bible's book of Revelation
unlike the evil Susan whose basically banned from Heaven for being too interested in lipstick and boys to believe any longer.
Anyway from what I've read (iirc) Aslan=Lion of Judah, & he also appears as a lamb at the end of one book = Lamb of God)
The Last Battle is (based on) the Book of Revelation, for Children, the Tash/Tashlan bits=the prophecy of false leaders/prophets/messiah etc appearing in the end times
Somewhere on the internets it's been described as an attack on Muslim beliefs
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
What a shit programme. It didn't even go through all seven books and their planets, it set up really odd and weak objections to its thesis in order to refute them ('Surely Lewis must have abandoned his interest with the planets when he grew up?' 'No.') and then it turned into an embarrassingly poor attempt to proselytise for Jesus.
The planet theory might have some legs, but we didn't hear enough of it.
The planet theory might have some legs, but we didn't hear enough of it.
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dirtysweet
i meant to watch this cos i did like the Narnia books when i were a nipper.
i learned about the Aslan/god, christian malarky when i was an adult but wasn't aware of the religious stuff as a kid. i think i did see Aslan as a father figure though..
from reading this thread, it seems it was a confusing programme? something about the medaeval (sp?) Seven Planets?
i learned about the Aslan/god, christian malarky when i was an adult but wasn't aware of the religious stuff as a kid. i think i did see Aslan as a father figure though..
from reading this thread, it seems it was a confusing programme? something about the medaeval (sp?) Seven Planets?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'm not going to watch the program, because it sounds crap-but did the expert at least talk about 'Out of the silent planet/prelandra/that hideous strength?
I would have thought a trilogy for grown ups that so heavily involves planets would have got a mention.
Basically, this bloke reckons that each Narnia book is themed around the medieval conception of one of the seven planets (Mecury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Sun and Moon). So, Prince Caspian is Mars, because it's all about war, and something about trees, because Mars was also associated with trees. This was where the theory looked a bit weak, because you can draw all kinds of associations in mythology, and most classical gods have tree associations.
There was no consideration of other evidence, such as any other reason why he might have stopped at seven books (publishing deal? sales figures? It was not even mentioned). It might well be true, but the programme did a poor job of examining it.
You would have thought wrongly, I'm afraid.
madzone
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Yeah, I thought it spent an awful lot of time dealng with the life of Lewis and very little time dealing with the 'code' - strange for a programme called The Narnia Code
I was also distinctly underwhelmed by the 'code' itself. I was expecting something like some conspiraloon Bible Code 
madzone
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Yeah, he was an academic. He was studying his PhD on Lewis when late one night the code came to him like a revelation"Basically, this bloke reckons..."
love it
i might watch it on i-player later (i'm interested too because my granny was obsessed with those 7 planets...but then she was mad).
cheers Alex.
I'd watch it if you have a spare hour and you're interested in the books/planets, just don't expect to be particularly enlightened at the end of itMe too! That's why I watched it.I was expecting something like some conspiraloon Bible Code
Can I just point out that (and I can legally say this given that she was 19 when the first film was made) that Susan is hot.
Yeah, he was an academic. He was studying his PhD on Lewis when late one night the code came to him like a revelation
A Phd on CS Lewis's "theological imagination.". That strikes me as very useful.
"He received his PhD at St. Andrews University in 2005 and wrote his dissertation on Lewis's theological imagination."
Have to agree with this, the programme set itself up to do something and didnt deliver the basics.
Oooh Michael Ward has discovered a secret level of meaning in CS Lewis' writing which escaped our conscious notice for 50 years- its cosmically significant! Except it wasnt. Once you got beyond the theory of each book representing a medieval planet, imbuing it with those specific virtues (or otherwise) - what was the point of the rest of the programme?
Surely it should have gone on to further deconstruct those meanings and brought forth some shining and meaningful conclusion. As you say, it only mentioned 4 of the series - Lion the Witch, Prince Caspian, Silver Chair and Dawn Treader.
Plus two thirds of the way through the programme having revealed the secret and the role/significance of medieval cosmology, Ward refers to the Discarded Image, in which Lewis repudiates those same myths saying 'they had a serious defect, it was not true!'
So turns out belief in the truth of the medieval God centred concept wasnt the point, its significance lays in its rich beauty, 'sufused with layers of meaning.' Its no mere coincidence that we're all here on this big rock and that our atoms have achieve consciousness- there is nothing random, it is all designed.
CS Lewis believed in a meaning drenched universe! Everything is planed but yet looks planless- everything leads to everything else! And God designed it all! Well so what?
Well other than Lewis believing it, what was the point? Physics changed our understanding of the planets and the universe around us, and Lewis still harks back to a tradition he himself admits is false. This is ultimately where the programme falls down.
The religious scientists at the end asking metaphysical questions were unconvincing and rather pointless. The show should have stuck to the academic literary discussion.
At the end of the programme Ward supposes Lewis would be asking "What took you so long?"
Well surely the answer is 'No one cared and it doesnt matter'?
I got accussed of being a nonce when I said that on here recently
I dont care, I'd do the time
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