The Museum of Bristol
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bristol_citizen
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inks said:
What used to be in the areas that are now Broadmead (sorry Mechants Quarter), Castle Park, Wine Street, the Victoria Street end of Redcliffe, Bridewell, Newfoundland Street etc? Think of any area in the centre that was thrown up in the 50's, 60's and 70's (and there's a lot of them).
butterfly child
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Serotonin said:
Er, actually, she's not.
You were the one who made this personal, Geri said she didn't care about your opinion, so you call her an inadequate, unpleasant twat?
Do you say that to everyone who diagrees with your opinion?
Christonabike
Relax, bc - it's only a troll. Don't feed it. 
Serotonin
history of all hitherto existing society is BLANK?
butterfly child said:Er, actually, she's not.
You were the one who made this personal, Geri said she didn't care about your opinion, so you call her an inadequate, unpleasant twat?
Do you say that to everyone who diagrees with your opinion?
Christonabike
If she didn't care about my opinion, exactly what was her motive for posting that then? She obviously cared enough to make an unpleasant and very pointless post.
As for calling her a twat, well she isn't going to care is she, seeing as my opinion means nothing to her.
Ahem!
Perhaps you could take this over to the troll thread that fat hamster has kindly started?
It's not especially important on the grand scale of things that a thread about the proposed remodelling of the Industrial Museum isn't derailed but it's sparked an interesting discussion.
Perhaps you could take this over to the troll thread that fat hamster has kindly started?
It's not especially important on the grand scale of things that a thread about the proposed remodelling of the Industrial Museum isn't derailed but it's sparked an interesting discussion.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Oh fuck off. One month ban.Serotonin said:
Anyway, where were we?
Ah, in Broadmead!
"What used to be in the areas that are now Broadmead (sorry Mechants Quarter), Castle Park, Wine Street, the Victoria Street end of Redcliffe, Bridewell, Newfoundland Street etc? Think of any area in the centre that was thrown up in the 50's, 60's and 70's (and there's a lot of them)."
To a point, yes, but as you know these areas were cleared by German bombers rather than as part of a development plan.
After WW2 the decision was made to replace these mixed commercial / retail / residential areas with retail and commercial developments.
I don't think this is sufficient to say that there was a deliberate intention to get poor people out of the city centre when large council estates were built around Redcliffe Hill and Kingsdown. We might just have to agree to differ on that.
It's clear that during the 1990's a clear intention developed to bring residential use back into the city centre and for this to be done by commercial developers. Clearly commercial developers are only interested in making as much cash as possible so they're going to build for and market to wealthy people.
The Council could have used the profits from selling the land for development to get more social housing but they seem to have focused on cultural / tourist developments instead.
Which brings us back to the Industrial Museum. Like the Watershed, Arnolfini, the urban beach opposite the Hippodrome, the new pedestrian bridges, @Bristol and so on the Industrial Museum is being remodelled to make it more tourist friendly.
Ah, in Broadmead!
"What used to be in the areas that are now Broadmead (sorry Mechants Quarter), Castle Park, Wine Street, the Victoria Street end of Redcliffe, Bridewell, Newfoundland Street etc? Think of any area in the centre that was thrown up in the 50's, 60's and 70's (and there's a lot of them)."
To a point, yes, but as you know these areas were cleared by German bombers rather than as part of a development plan.
After WW2 the decision was made to replace these mixed commercial / retail / residential areas with retail and commercial developments.
I don't think this is sufficient to say that there was a deliberate intention to get poor people out of the city centre when large council estates were built around Redcliffe Hill and Kingsdown. We might just have to agree to differ on that.
It's clear that during the 1990's a clear intention developed to bring residential use back into the city centre and for this to be done by commercial developers. Clearly commercial developers are only interested in making as much cash as possible so they're going to build for and market to wealthy people.
The Council could have used the profits from selling the land for development to get more social housing but they seem to have focused on cultural / tourist developments instead.
Which brings us back to the Industrial Museum. Like the Watershed, Arnolfini, the urban beach opposite the Hippodrome, the new pedestrian bridges, @Bristol and so on the Industrial Museum is being remodelled to make it more tourist friendly.
While I was in town yesterday I went over to the Industrial Museum for a close look at the building.
It isn't metal framed, the structure is concrete.
If you go into the walkthrough area in the middle of the museum and look up you can see big steel I-beams supporting the first floor. These beams holding up the floor are probably the only steel elements in the building's structure.
The skin of the current building is a mix of brick infilling and steel sheets which I think are some sort of large sliding doors. Perhaps it might be these steel sliding doors which are the only remaining examples of their type in the dock area? Off the top of my head I can't think of any similar ones.
These will be lost if the current re-modelling goes ahead as planned. From the design on display in the architecture centre most of the skin of the building, at least at the front, will be replaced with big sheets of glass.
It isn't metal framed, the structure is concrete.
If you go into the walkthrough area in the middle of the museum and look up you can see big steel I-beams supporting the first floor. These beams holding up the floor are probably the only steel elements in the building's structure.
The skin of the current building is a mix of brick infilling and steel sheets which I think are some sort of large sliding doors. Perhaps it might be these steel sliding doors which are the only remaining examples of their type in the dock area? Off the top of my head I can't think of any similar ones.
These will be lost if the current re-modelling goes ahead as planned. From the design on display in the architecture centre most of the skin of the building, at least at the front, will be replaced with big sheets of glass.
FruitandNut
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bristol citizen - Having lived in Bristol from 1962 until 1987 I tend to agree with your 'gentrification' description of much of the central area of the city. Having said that, the place was very run down in large areas, how much as a result of lack of funds and how much by design is a moot point. I watched the Tudor houses at the bottom of Christmas Steps decay through neglect before being pulled down for office development. 
ps. I hope the city patriarchs keep the 'Green Banana' bridge and the old Bristol Prison entrance facade, perhaps incorporating the latter into some development. My first employer, now long dead, told me that his maternal grandmother as a young girl saw a public hanging just outside the gates, a wooden staging was erected on the cobblestones.
ps. I hope the city patriarchs keep the 'Green Banana' bridge and the old Bristol Prison entrance facade, perhaps incorporating the latter into some development. My first employer, now long dead, told me that his maternal grandmother as a young girl saw a public hanging just outside the gates, a wooden staging was erected on the cobblestones.
bristol_citizen
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bristol_citizen
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<bump!!!!>
"The design for a see-through museum was infantile and insulting," says the Evening Post as the plans go south along with £100k spent so far.
No link yet unfortunately, will post later.
"The design for a see-through museum was infantile and insulting," says the Evening Post as the plans go south along with £100k spent so far.
No link yet unfortunately, will post later.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I like the old building, and also the new. I dont think we should be slaves to the past, it is just an old crappy wharehouse after all. The utility of the building is the most important thing.
As alluded to above it will probably be built whatever. As with the rest of the development in that area I think that will be a good thing.
As alluded to above it will probably be built whatever. As with the rest of the development in that area I think that will be a good thing.
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