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I've just found myself singing along to that. I seem to remember all the words
The main thing wrong with RnB music is...
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I've just found myself singing along to that. I seem to remember all the words
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's obviously not a homogeneous whole, but all RnB has something in common, otherwise it wouldn't be RnB. I don't think it's unreasonable to be of the opinion that there is something not right about the thing that all RnB has in common. I like quite a lot of Techno and Drum and Bass, but I can understand why many people (my mum and dad, for instance) find it all unbearable.yeh, because RnB is one great big homogenous whole with no variety or differences in quality.
next: reggae. It all sounds the same.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
The term Rhythm and Blues was coined by Jerry Wexler, who wrote for Billboard magazine, in 1948 as an alternative to the term 'race music', which had come to be seen as offensive. It was an umbrella term for any music made by and popular with black people in the US. RCA records also adopted the term to market 'black' music.
What you mean by 'real' R'n'B is just popular music made by black musicians in the US in the years following Billboard adopting the term for their chart of music made by black people, up to the early 60s when popular 'black' music in the US developed a new sound which was called 'soul'.
Billboard continued to use the term for their chart right through the soul, funk and disco years, all because they were predominatly 'black' music. In the 80s a new style of music orginiated made by black US musicians, combining soul, funk, hip-hop. Originally confined to the New Jack Swing scene, it developed beyond this and rather than come up with a new name for this new 'black' music, it reverted to calling it R'n'B.
So modern R'n'B isn't some new scene stealing the name from music from the late 40s to early 60s, but rather the result of an ongoing evolution of the music made by black people in the US. It's similar to the way that modern 'rock' music has little in common with 'rock' music from the 50s and early 60s. Do people get in a huff when Kings of Leon are described as rock, although it doesn't sound anything like Jerry Lee Lewis?
I am generally guilty of saying that RnB is all shit and then taking my own argument down I do think that it's a genre that makes fantastic singles but I rarely like whole albums. Lauren Hill's Miseducation is one of the few that I liked all the way through....TLC never made an entire album I could listen to - I'd do a lot of track skipping.
I do think that it's a genre that makes fantastic singles but I rarely like whole albums. Lauren Hill's Miseducation is one of the few that I liked all the way through....TLC never made an entire album I could listen to - I'd do a lot of track skipping.RnB covers a far wider spectrum than Techno and DnB though. And whilst I love techno and Drum and Bass, it's easy to see how something more alien, louder, fastier and bassier can disagree with delicate, often superannuated, ears.
But to rail against melody and technically often outstanding vocals? There's something a bit different there - unless there's some weird, hard to justify dislike of 'urban' voices or something.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Fair enough. The recent tune American Boy (sorry, I'm extremely ignorant about current music but I think that's what it's called) is a pleasant song, and I suppose that would be classed as RnB. Most of the RnB that I hear, though, has an earnest, self-regarding sincerity that makes me want to listen to The Ramones or something to detox from it.
N_igma
Epistemic nuisance
What about him? Shite.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
If you really think Ray Charles is shite, then I feel sorry for your ears. However, they are your ears.
N_igma
Epistemic nuisance
I feel sorry for your face.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Good one.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I'll pm you
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Fictionist
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Ha ha ha, yes
and can anyone remember a signer called ERic something....i have still not remembered his surname after asking on here a few years ago...
can't remember what he sang either ....
Eric Benet or Eric Roberson perhaps?
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zenie
>^^<
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
...the way it's sold.
And the fact that every time a producer comes up with a new quirk, every other producer jumps on the bandwagon, so you get consecutive waves of sound-alike tunes.
And the fact that every time a producer comes up with a new quirk, every other producer jumps on the bandwagon, so you get consecutive waves of sound-alike tunes.
kained&able
Here for the football.
that its had far to much of an influence on pop music meaning that every girl group from the last 15 years gets called r n b.
Theres some allright stuff about like jodeci, mary j blidge, usher, genuwine, akon(if theres a decent rapper on the track) and umm pooissibly some others but theres about 10 tonnes of shite you have to sift through to find anything worth listning to.
dave
Theres some allright stuff about like jodeci, mary j blidge, usher, genuwine, akon(if theres a decent rapper on the track) and umm pooissibly some others but theres about 10 tonnes of shite you have to sift through to find anything worth listning to.
dave
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What is your favourite Jodeci track Dave?
kained&able
Here for the football.
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Busted!!!
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Soul Brother Records has recently issued this 'Best of 2008' list for soul records. Some of you might be interested in exploring these:
Jazzanova Of All The Things
Nikka Costa Peeble To A Pearl
Kindred Arrival
Liquid Spirits Music
Various Artists Essential Street Soul
Maysa Metamorphosis
Reel People Seven Ways To Wonder (remix)
Incognito More Tales Remixed
Various Artists Soul Togetherness 2008
Little Anthony & The Imperials You’ll Never Know
Jazzanova Of All The Things
Nikka Costa Peeble To A Pearl
Kindred Arrival
Liquid Spirits Music
Various Artists Essential Street Soul
Maysa Metamorphosis
Reel People Seven Ways To Wonder (remix)
Incognito More Tales Remixed
Various Artists Soul Togetherness 2008
Little Anthony & The Imperials You’ll Never Know
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