The main thing wrong with Oi! music is...
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chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
his account of the oi movement on his website if pretty fascinating.
another highly contradictory chap. used to be editor of the RAR 'temporary hoarding' paper which championed Crisis etc. and in the mid 80s was still championing Red Action (i've still got an issue with a big interview with him).
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
haha, didn't he attack someone with an axe after some gig? I always used to get him mixed up with the singer of The Blood who also looked pretty deranged.
Fedayn
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Nah, I think a bit of the latter and tied up with there being a bit of a crossover with that kinda music and the emo stuff up here.
Quite like RR as it goes, Colin is a decent fella too.
Griff
Feeding the foxes
Wouldn't have surprised me. Think I saw them with the Addicts at the 100 Club or could have been someone else.
cozmikbrew
Bass case
LoL the blood!!!!!forgoten all about them!!
forgoten all about them!!chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
well, what i was meaning was that the divergence between people who actually 'practiced what many of the bands preached' and those who were just into it cos it was a music cult was something i saw as natural, where-as for many it really was just a fashion.
you just have to look at that 'day the country died' book to see the number of bands for whom it was just a matter of playing generic punk music, wearing scruffy black clothes and playing in front of a banner that was an amalgamation of the anarchy and CND symbols.
Fedayn
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Exactly, i've liked reading his stuff on oi and early skinhead stuff.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
no, i was meaning that i don't recall 'i'm thick' opening with the words 'this one's dedicated to garry bushell'.
yes, it was quite a good 'situationist prank' but i don't think anyone ever really thought it was anything other than a piss-take.
Griff
Feeding the foxes
Heh! We had a banner we screen-printed in our art lesson for the one and only time our 'band'
D
) played at Allen Gordons in Leyton. My burd singing, a bloke in my English class on drums and his older brother on bass. We couldn't play a note but sounded better than anything on the Bullshit Detector in a Fatal Microbes kinda way.
cozmikbrew
Bass case
Yeah got that book,think ive said before,quickly moved away from"punk"as it was a dead end musically,did ya say you knew some of the bands in that book?
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
Heh! We had a banner we screen-printed in our art lesson for the one and only time our 'band'
We couldn't play a note but sounded better than anything on the Bullshit Detector in a Fatal Microbes kinda way.
they way things are now with the anarcho-punk revival, you could probably reform and be playing sell out gigs in japan in a month!
revol68
what, fucking what?
They have a song dedicated to me called "Armchair Anarchist". Colin's alright, had a drunken discussion with him about the "difference" between nationalism and patriotism.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
cozmikbrew
Bass case
Dish that dirt
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
He's a mate of a Dublin based mate of mines. They've a mutual love of scooter rallies and Colin has been known to leather the odd bonehead at them.
Fozzie Bear
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It opens like that on the mp3 I have.
Some background to it here:
http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2005/10/pseudo-skins/
Fozzie Bear
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In terms of Skrewdriver and the Oppressed, only ONE of them has had the guts to use a Miami Sound Machine -esque drum machine to do ace boom-bap Oi-Disco versions of tunes like "Skinhead Girl" and "Joe Hawkins".
Griff
Feeding the foxes
Did anyone know Skrewdriver went all 'Country' when they recorded their Klansmen stuff.
Steelguitars and allsorts.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
It opens like that on the mp3 I have.
Some background to it here:
http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2005/10/pseudo-skins/
fair enough, i must be wrong then. in mitigation, i only heard the track once i think and that would have been over 25 years ago!
everyone knew it was a piss-take track back then though. actually, loads of the stuff back then was. mates of mine used to make up the Oi Charts that used to feature in Sounds (absurd names like The 4-Herberts) and later even produced tapes (on the 'herbertsound' label!) of all these ficticious made up bands which were usually just just the same folk banging away on buscuit tins, acoustic guitars, a kazoo and even a stylophone with deek of oi polloi shouting absurd made up lyrics over the top
dread to think what any of the skinheads who sent off for copies made of it all when they got their tapes!!
Fedayn
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Did anyone know Skrewdriver went all 'Country' when they recorded their Klansmen stuff.
Steelguitars and allsorts.
Yeah, as the Klansmen they did 'Reich 'n' Roll'
I think.chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
not that there isn't already a vast tradition of racist country artists. see 'johnny rebel' for a start.
Was Jon Gaunt once NOT a cunt?
That's a bit lame, no?
Yeh, he was in Skrewdriver, or a forerunner. But he got out before they went far-right. So where's the issue?
And I don't like All Skrewed Up because I think it's crap, not because it's racist or not.
I remember thinking "very poor" at the time apart from a couple of songs. Oddly enough their best stuf (musically) was when they first went dodgy.
Best stuff musically seems to be coming from abroad lately despite the odd daft lyric (not dodgy lyric, just ....)
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He's hard work when pissed though. He was picking every fucker up outside this pub in Camden and swinging em round into others knocking pints flying. Then he decided to spend a fortune on "brains" for us all (a drink that looks like what it's called) to see if any of us threw up (we were all rough after the marathon session the night before). When we didn't he got em in again!
I've heard the new album is great but he's probably too disorganised for it to appear.
I met his Dublin mates at Camden (see the above post).
We also see Traycee at B/pool every year
Not half as deranged as he looks singing his ballads now (search on My Space)
is that Oi?! that sounds just like Green Day!! i'm not into that at all.
They call themselves Oi but i think (cover art esp) they are selling themselves short. Sounds more like The Avengers than Green Day to me though. Maybe not as raw
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