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The Location of Urbanites Worldwide

Rock Bottom

Rock Bottom

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This is a master index of the locations of urbanites throughout the world.

Because of the nature of the positioning of this master thread, I have decided to temporarily exclude non-British nationals living in the Greater London area, but will welcome any contributions from non-British nationals living elsewhere in the world - even (or especially) if it your country of origin.

I will be responsible for updating this - you can either reply to this thread or pm me, and I will update as soon as possible.

To be a useful resource for those wishing to enquire about more information, if you wish to put forward a particular place you have lived or worked in, let's set a minimum period of 3 months.

People currently residing in the city / country will be displayed in boldface.

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Africa
Egypt : mumkinbadbokura(?, ?)
Isreal : mumkinbadbokura(?, ?)
Namibia : Bob (UK, Namimbia)
Libya : Stroober (UK, Tripoli)
South Africa : omnipotent (?, Cape Town) / D (USA, Johannesburg)
Sudan : Chilango (UK, Khartoum?)
Sierra Leone : slaar (UK, Freetown)
Sinai : zigzag (?, Sinai)

Asia
Bahrain : fuburt (UK, Manama)
Burma : Purves Grundy (UK, Yangon)
China : Rock Bottom (UK, Zhuhai) / RenegadeDog (UK, Wuhan) / JessieDog (UK, Hong Kong) / inzame (GRE, Hong Kong)
India : Loki (SWE, New Delhi) / mumkinbadbokura(?, ?)
Indonesia : Purves_Grundy (UK, Sumatra) / Loki (SWE, Jakarta)
Japan : Purves_Grundy (UK, Nagano) / Techno303 (UK, Tokyo) / Loki (SWE, Kobe)
Korea : Dandred (UK, Seoul) / Ninjaboy (UK, Geoje) / rachellyabused (UK, Hongseong) / timestamp(?, Ulsan) / Stat (?, Gwangju) / lin dze (?, ?)
Kyrgyzstan : Rock Bottom (UK, Bishkek)
Laos : Hypocolius (?, Vientiane)
Singapore : inzane (?)
Saudi Arabia : fuburt (UK, khobar dharan)
Thailand : Fela Fan (UK, Chiang Mai) / Fela Fan (UK, Bangkok)

Europe
Czech Republic : Rock Bottom (UK, Dobruska) / Shanksy (UK, Brno)
Finland : Culdee(UK, Helsinki) / fubert (UK, Helsinki)
France : mauvais mangue (UK, Paris) / maestrocloud (UK, Paris) / John Quays (?, Lille) / fubert (UK, Cannes) / RenegedeDog (UK, Paris) / Chilango (UK, Ardeche) / maestrocloud (UK, Paris)
Germany : *(removed)*, / fuchs66(?, Bonn) / districtline (SWE, Berlin) / fishfingerer(IRE, Neukölln, Berlin) / FruitandNut(?,?)
Greece : inzane(?, Crete) / marco mark(UK, ?) / inzane(?, Athens)
Iceland : Complex (UK, Reykjavik)
Ireland : Helzbelz (?, Dublin) ch750536 (?, Abbeyfeale - co limerick) / j26 (IRE, Waterford County)
Italy : 43mhz (UK, Siracusa -Sicily)
Netherlands : J77 (UK, Amsterdam) / BootyLove (UK, Amsterdam) / Faithy (NED, The Hague) / frogfeeler (UK, Amsterdam) / fubert (UK, Eindhoven) / fubert (UK, den haag) / Poi E (?, The Hague) / marco mark(UK, ?)
Portugal : Chilango (UK, Porto)
Russia : marmaritz (?, Moscow) / Culdee (UK, Moscow) / Sasha (RUS, ?)
Spain : Stanley Edwards (?, South) / mrkikiet (?, Barcelona) / Stanley Edwards (?, Madrid) / frogfeeler (UK, Madrid)
Sweden : eeeef (GER, ?) / Loki (SWE, Stockholm)
Switzerland : fubert (UK, nyon-montreux) / Pie 1 (?, Zurich)
Ukraine : Sasha (RUS, Kiev)

Oceania
Australia : Fledgling(UK, Sydney) / Wess (?, ?) / miniGMoit (UK, Melbourne) / starryeyedsarah (UK, Queensland) / parallelepipete(?, South Melbourne) / mumkinbadbokura(?, Caberra) / Poi E (?, Sydney)
New Zealand : Poi E (?, Wellington) /Poi E (?, Auckland) / Poi E (?, Dunedin)

North America
USA : Axon (UK, Miami) / t0bytoo (?, New York) / JoMo1953 (?, Los Angeles / 888 (UK, Seattle) / EatMoreChips (UK, Chicago), frogfeeler (UK, Orlando-Florida) / D (USA, San Francisco) / tjm4477 (?, Dallas) / pseudonarcissus (UK, Houston) / mhendo (AUS, Baltimore) / Rock Bottom (UK, New York), fuburt (UK, Philidelphia) / Techno303 (UK, Ann Arbor-Michigan) / Loki (SWE, Washington DC) / frogfeeler (UK, Dallas-Texas) / D (USA, New York) / D (USA, Washington DC) / Stanley Edwards (?, New York) / indicate (USA, San Francisco) / indicate (USA, Washington)
Canada : Johnny Canuck2(CAN, Vancouver) / spring-peeper(?, Eastern Ontario) / Valve(?, Vancouver) / walktome(CAN, Toronto)


South America
Brazil : Fidel (UK, Itacare - Bahia)
Chile : guillermog (CHILE, Santiago)
Colombia : colacho (UK, Bogotá)
Mexico : Chilango (UK, Mexico City)
St Lucia : felixthecat (UK/St Lucia, St Lucia)

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Having spoken to rock about this thread, perhaps it needs to be said that this sticky is for folk to post up info about the countries they live in.

And for posters to know who lives where so they can get some good first-hand advice about things.

C'mon, make it work! I'm just off on my hols to oz soon, but next month i'll put up some basic info about thailand.

And chiang mai specifically since it's the best town to live in in the world... ;)
 
im an expat in my own right, except I left my country to come and live here in London. I guess that doesn't count.
 
reNnIe said:
im an expat in my own right, except I left my country to come and live here in London. I guess that doesn't count.
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Actually, I had considered catering for non-UK expats living in the UK as an option.

However, such an option probably doesn't belong in the Travel and World forum.

Maybe one for the future, if a separate forum ever gets created.
 
Brasil : Fidel (UK, Itacare, Bahia)

Been living in the Amazon for last year, just taken the plunge and started renovating/bulding a pousada (B&B) in Itacare.

Will spam the boards with urbanate promotional discounts when we open in October ;)
 
I am now living in Siracusa, Sicily.. don't intend on coming back to London.. its hot and sunny here.. :D
 
Fidel said:
Brasil : Fidel (UK, Itacare, Bahia)

Been living in the Amazon for last year, just taken the plunge and started renovating/bulding a pousada (B&B) in Itacare.

Will spam the boards with urbanate promotional discounts when we open in October ;)
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There's lots of people of the Bahia faith over here in China. Is this where it all originates?
 
I'm in Paris - have been for ten months, but I've only got three weeks left. Hopefully I'll be back after I finish uni. :)
 
Rock Bottom said:
There's lots of people of the Bahia faith over here in China. Is this where it all originates?
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hello mate, no idea is it a happy clappy jesus operation? They are very popular out here (all over Brasil), much to the chargin of slightly less happy clappy Cathlics.

Bahia is a state north of Rio, famous for its beaches, sugar, chocolate and laid back attitude.....
 
Rock Bottom said:
To be a useful resource for those wishing to enquire about more information, if you wish to put forward a particular place you have lived or worked in, let's set a minimum period of 3 months.
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ah! in which case:

New Delhi, India - nine months
Jakarta Indonesia - 3.5 years
Washington DC, USA - one year
Stockholm, Sweden - five years
Kobe, Japan - three months
London, UK - 20 years+
 
Loki said:
I'm a Swede in London so I can't see why I shouldn't be included.
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You would have a legitimate right to be included - if this was a separate forum catering to the needs of foreigners abroad. This however, is a *sticky* on the travel and world forum.

I imagine the sheer numbers of foreigners living in London would overwealm the resource available for people living in far out parts, and would dominate such a small thing such as a master thread.

.....But as you have often commented - and made rather unusual vocal objections to the ideas being presented - maybe such a forum does not suit your needs. You can meet your fellow countrymen (if you wish - knowing many Swedes and being partly Swedish myself - I realise that you do not need to feel part of an overseas community) in any number of local bars in Brixton or nearby.

But with your support, and the support of others, if you and ReNNie feel that such a section would be truly useful, then obviously, I will put the effort in to help as much as possible. It's only that I don't feel the enthusiasm oozing from you in particular!
 
The thread is entitled "The Location of Expats Worldwide" - not "The Location of British Expats Worldwide".

Your first post simply states "This is a master index of the locations of urbanite expats throughout the world."

You seem to be betraying the assumption that that urbanites are all British (they are not) or that "all round the world" automatically excludes the UK (why should it?). I don't understand why you are assuming the "travel and the world" forum to be aimed soley at British people and why you think the world should only be viewed from the viewpoint of the UK.

Actually, I had considered catering for non-UK expats living in the UK as an option.

However, such an option probably doesn't belong in the Travel and World forum.
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Why doesn't it? Is this because people travelling to London or relocating to the UK generally shouldn't use this forum or think of themselves as 'ex-pats'? Are you saying that they should talk about their ex-pat-ness in the London Forum or the General Forum if they are outside London/SW/Wales? It seems that you are allowing British urbanites to express a demand for 'ex-pat' status but saying that non-Brits in the UK can't express the same demand.

You would have a legitimate right to be included - if this was a separate forum catering to the needs of foreigners abroad. This however, is a *sticky* on the travel and world forum.
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So British ex-pats are not "foreigners abroad"?

I imagine the sheer numbers of foreigners living in London would overwealm the resource available for people living in far out parts, and would dominate such a small thing such as a master thread.
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First you are making assumptions about how many urbanites are non-UK nationals living in the UK, secondly - how on earth would a list 'overwhealm the resource'?

If you want to make a thread soley for *British* expats, or for expats everywhere *except* the UK, then you should state this, but to simply start saying that this forum is soley for Brits isn't right surely?
 
TJ,

I think RB's basic idea is simply to log the locations of those Urbanites living (long term) outside of the UK.

Not really a "Brit" thing.

I could be wrong now....

But I don't think so.

;)

Woof
 
TeeJay said:
The thread is entitled "The Location of Expats Worldwide" - not "The Location of British Expats Worldwide".

Your first post simply states "This is a master index of the locations of urbanite expats throughout the world."

You seem to be betraying the assumption that that urbanites are all British (they are not) or that "all round the world" automatically excludes the UK (why should it?). I don't understand why you are assuming the "travel and the world" forum to be aimed soley at British people and why you think the world should only be viewed from the viewpoint of the UK.
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I have made NO such assumption. Check the list. The origin of the person is clearly mentioned. It just happens that the majority have been from the UK so far.

Why doesn't it? Is this because people travelling to London or relocating to the UK generally shouldn't use this forum or think of themselves as 'ex-pats'?
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Of course they are! But look at the main focus of this website - LONDON, BRIXTON, and the UK!

so Brit ex-pats are not "foreigners abroad"?
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This, if I understand you correctly, is the "rebranding" that we have discussed and need to sort out

If you want to make a thread soley for *British* expats, or for expats everywhere *except* the UK, then you should state this, but to simply start saying that this forum is soley for Brits isn't right surely?
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As I must restate, I have NEVER made this assumption! This is not an old boys' club. It is simply for people - OF ANY NATIONALITY - living outside the confines of the main country of focus for urban75.
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Sorry, must dash to work. I will provide a more articulate argument later.
 
Articulate !
No need to, I considered this idea to be a useful resource for people who are moving to another country and want to get advice from people that have already done it. And it makes no assumptions about what peoples 'home' nationality is.
It's a simple idea.
 
axon said:
Articulate !
No need to, I considered this idea to be a useful resource for people who are moving to another country and want to get advice from people that have already done it. And it makes no assumptions about what peoples 'home' nationality is.
It's a simple idea.
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Thanks Axon. This is the general idea, and I appreciate your support.

But TeeJay and Poi E (and Loki) have made arguments that I feel have been founded on misunderstanding.

First things first, I made a serious "faux-pas" when I made use of the word expat. The word has much too many negative connatations which bring up visions of brits sitting around in their local expat bar completely ignoring the culture going on around them. I want to get the title of this thread changed ASAP.

In order to remove such a perception from my own mind, and my motivations for setting up such a project, you must understand my lifestyle out here. After 8 months, I still struggle with the language, but my average evening involves taking my bike down to the local shop, teaching the local girl there a bit of English over a few beers, cycling through into whore alley - a part of town where they have yet to knock down the old remnants of the original buildings - a rarity in Zhuhai. Here, I buy a few of the girls cans of coke or water, then sit down with a beer and a fag with my friend Arliang - who like most people, doesn't speak a word of English. Arliang is the whore alley K dealer who sells me shit bags for 100, which I occassionally buy as he is an allround cool bloke and a want to build a bit of "Guanxi" (will explain at a later date). Occassionally, I then cycle down to my Canadians' friends house, and we chew the fat for a while, and share our experiences. Couple all this with the fact that I have a Chinese girlfriend whom I adore (and a reluctant on-off mistress), you can begin to understand that I have no need to detatch myself from Chinese culture.

However, let's say there happens to be an urbanite either travelling through or living in Guangdong province, wouldn't it be beneficial for him to know that I have a two bedroom flat, and would love to show this person (WHATEVER HIS NATIONALITY POI E / TEEJAY FOR FUCKS SAKE!) my unique insight into China? Take him down the alley? Show him something that he would never be able to discover for himself - Lonely Planet in hand ?

and POI E, TeeJay, you have clearly marked me down as a little-Englander, and you have GROSSLY underestimated my dislike for both the U.K. and British people in general. I don't have a patriotic bone in my body.

I want you to site ONE example where I stated that the purpose of this thread was for the exclusive use of British people!
 
Rock Bottom said:
teaching the local girl there a bit of Chinese
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Did you really mean to say this? :)

I DO actually know someone who taught chinese to the Chinese. He is white and from england and fluent in Mandarin. When he lived in HK he frequently taught Cantonese-speakers Mandarin... :D
 
TeeJay said:
First you are making assumptions about how many urbanites are non-UK nationals living in the UK, secondly - how on earth would a list 'overwhealm the resource'?
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Just to add to this point. Any Londoner will confirm that social groups in London consist of people from all over the world.

During my last tenure in London, a typical trip out with my brother, who has an Argentian girlfriend and lives with a Brazilian man will usually involve a Frenchmen, an American, a Swede, an Italian, a Spaniad and some fucking awful hard-house / trance music. Quite often, in a group of 10 people, I find myself alone with my brother as being the only Brit.

IMHO, foreigners in London don't feel the need to find members of their community. On the otherhand, a man who finds himself transplanted in the middle of rural China might appreciate some help and guidance. I would love to hear arguments to the contrary.
 
RenegadeDog said:
Did you really mean to say this? :)

I DO actually know someone who taught chinese to the Chinese. He is white and from england and fluent in Mandarin. When he lived in HK he frequently taught Cantonese-speakers Mandarin... :D
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No, I made an error. I have corrected it.

My Chinese is still rather limited to "zai lai yi ping pijiu", and "tai gui la!", although my listening comprehension is improving in leaps and bounds.
 
You just came across that way. No offense, you get used to that sort of thing in the UK. Anyway, can add the Hague, Sydney and NZ for me.
 
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